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Has anyone asked Western Digital what the status of MAMR drives is?
Here I am being a schmuck still getting 12TB drives.
and they’re still too expensive
That’s nice and all but I’m not looking for denser storage, I want cheap storage. It feels like prices per TB has barely moved in the last decade.
It costs nearly as much to make a 10tb drive as it does to make a 20. HDD’s are already pushing far fewer units than they were a decade ago so their focus is on capacity to meet the needs of their biggest customer, the enterprise.
The only way you’re going to get cheaper storage at this point is if they cut quality, nand prices fall drastically, or some new cheaper storage medium is discovered and scaled.
Seagate’s future looks uncertain.
Seagate drives never let me down!
When looking at Seagate’s description of the HAMR technology they state that “Each bit is heated and cools down in a nanosecond, so the HAMR laser has no impact at all on drive temperature, or on the temperature, stability, or reliability of the media overall” but I’m left wondering if I buy these drives as used when they get dumped after their 5 year enterprise life cycle then how much faith can I place on the “stability, or reliability of the media overall” after all that repeated heating? I’d be somewhat expecting more and more bad blocks to be cropping up with repeated use assuming it actually does degrade although I guess you could cope with it if you run something like ZFS Raid-Z2/Z3 stripes to deal with any problems as they occur.
time to start lowering prices on hard drives
Always stick with WD.
One day we’ll get thickkk ssds
Maybe those from Nimbus is your thing? Exadrive, baby!
Seriously I just wanna buy some 8TB NVMes for the same price as 4x2TB NVMes. Or give me a cheapo not premium flash 16TB SATA SSD, if an NVMe one just isn’t doable.
Let us get beyond the 2TB SSDs!
You can get an enterprise 7.68TB drive for $530: https://www.amazon.com/SOLIDIGM-D5-P5430-Solid-State-Drive/dp/B0C96FTCS3
It’s a little more than 4x2TB but you get enterprise reliability.
8TB in the M.2 NVMe form factor is gonna be tough, though 8TB in the U.2 form factor (PCIe to a 2.5" drive) can be had for $400 used / $550 new (search “Intel DC P4510 SSDPE2KX080T851”).
We can already get new Samsung 8TB QLC in 2.5” SSD on Amazon for $300
SATA != NVMe. The above Intel drive is NVMe, not SATA.
I’m aware. The OP we’re both responding to asked for SATA if not available for NVMe. $300 is cheaper than $400
Or give me a cheapo not premium flash 16TB SATA SSD, if an NVMe one just isn’t doable.
Let us get beyond the 2TB SSDs!
Except he asked for a 8TB NVMe or a 16TB SATA. Is your $320 SATA drive 16TB? I was simply pointing out 8TB NVMe drives were available and not overly expensive.
I just wanna buy some 8TB NVMes for the same price as 4x2TB NVMes. Or give me a cheapo not premium flash 16TB SATA SSD, if an NVMe one just isn’t doable.
Doubt it. 64TB SSDs are already here in a 2.5"-ish form factor (U.2/u.3/E3.S). 128TB are only a couple years out.
40TB HDDs will be competing with 2.5" 128TB SSDs.
Your optimism about SSD prices is IMHO unjustified.
NANDs are afaik still produced in 14-15nm so the only way they get more capacity is stacking multiple layers.
So even if they add more and more layers the price of these NANDs will run into a price/capacity wall.
I’m not saying anything about prices, just about available capacities.
I’m partial to the long boi’s (EDSFF long) they have in servers now