This is my first year following this league and my god do I enjoy the chaos from top to bottom. Come on vascoooo
VASCO
bottlefogo
How do people in the US watch Brazilian Serie A?
Most competetive league in the world and it’s not even debatable
Top 5 league in the world and I’m tired of pretending it’s not
One of the best systems too. Everyone’s fighting for something over there
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a league leader with under 60 points after GW 32 for division with 20 teams. I don’t know if that’s good or bad still
I followed the league a bit when I studied in Brazil and ever since I occasionally take a look at the table and each season it is a different team being at the top or bottom. Feels like almost anyone can win or relegate.
The fact that continental spots + relegation account for the majority of the table makes this league insanely tense, Everyone always has something to play for.
I already accepted that this will be another title for Flamengo, I just hope Palmeiras manages to get a G4 finish.
So many teams who can win the title, the ending’s gonna be crazy
And also so many teams with chances of relegation, its insane.
Botafogo gave up a 16 point lead, a streak of like 18 matches unbeaten across all competitions (and I think another streak as locals) and lost 3 key matches back to back (one in a clásico against Vasco). It’s actually maddening how badly they’re fucking up this season
When I saw this post I thought “huh close lead? But Botafogo had an impossibly big lead how can it be close?”
14 point lead*
The funny thing is that they are just not simply “losing”. They are losing in the most unbelievable way.
They lost a game where they had a 3-0 lead last week. And yesterday they lost a game they were leading by 3-1… I simply cant believe this choke!!!
So hard to watch!
Botafogo absolutely bottling the league
And at the halfway point there were pundits saying the league was wrapped up already…
5 rounds to go and the first and 4th placed teams meet this weekend, before the final stretch after the return from the international break.
Bragantino’s match in hand is against Flamengo, and Botafogo’s is against Fortaleza if I’m not mistaken. Fortaleza are no pushover, despite being all the way down in 11th, they can climb up to 8th with their matches in hand.
The fight for the top 4 Libertadores spots is going to be mad, and none of those top 4 or even 6 teams are guaranteed to hold on to that coveted spot while also believing they can win the whole thing.
I mean, tbf no one was expecting what is happening atm, if Botafogo was half decent they would still be like easily 6 or 9 points ahead without considering the missing game.
They went from 2 defeats in 19 games to 9 defeats in 32.
They lost almost 4 times more in the last 13 games than they did in first 19.
Damn, 1 point in last 5 matches for Botafogo. And Gremio somehow 2nd place with 49 goals conceded.
Brazil league is wild.
Grêmio’s 9 is Luis Suarez. They concede 3 and win 4x3.
Botafogo had 47 pts in the first 19 games, only to follow with 12 in the next 13. Absurd drop in quality
MENTAL.
This title race and relegation battle is INSANE.
Bragantino have Botafogo and Flamengo back to back, two crazy games.
How do people feel about RB Bragantino in Brazil? Do they hate them like Leipzig in Germany or not really care?
From my part, indifferent. I really dont care about them, but id much rather having them as champions, than botafogo or palmeiras.
Indiference is the right word, but as we hate the rivals more i think neutrals would pick them to win the title race as they aren’t great rivals for anyone
Our clubs are so poorly managed that we think RB can set a good example on how to do things correctly. We don’t really care about they being an artificial team, we have more important issues to deal with, like very bad football pitches.
Most people feels indifference mostly because Bragantino is from a City with 170k people and has a very small amount of fans, some people call them an “artificial team”, but the only thing they really changed was the team’s logo and added “red bull” in front of the name, apart from that it’s the same team, in the same city and stadium and the same fans… they just just a decent management now.
Yes, the difference between Leipzig and Bragantino is that Bragantino had some history in Brazilian football before Red Bull.
Bragantino had already won 1 Série B title in 1989, 1 Campeonato Paulista title in 1990 and was runner-up in the Brasileirão in 1991.
This reduces the feeling of an artificial team.
Fun fact to foreigners: Red Bull tried to create a team from scratch in Brazil called Red Bull Brasil. It didn’t make it out of the bottom divisions hahaha. Brazilian football is ruthless.
Red Bull Brasil is weird because they had some good campaigns in the Paulistão, which is a pretty difficult tournament, but they were trash in National Divisions. Also, it still exists, but it’s called Red Bull Bragantino II now.
The lower national divisions of the Brazilian championship are some of the hardest tournaments around: you got to travel thousands of kilometers to cities that have no airports, play in absolutely terrible stadiums in awful heat… and while in Europe you would expect the competition to be awful, as the clubs have no money, you got to remember Brazil forms a metric ton of players.
Campeonato Paulista is difficult, but there was a time (I don’t know if it’s changed) when the rules were crazy and could cause some distortions in the perception of teams’ strength.
much rather them win it than Palmeiras or Flamengo
If Botafogo bottle this, I will understand if some fans never watch football again.
Our biggest lead when nobody had a game in hand was 8 points and we were still extremely disappointed. I can’t imagine how botafogo fans will recover if they really do fumble it.
Arsenal’s case is significantly less worse than Botafogo’s.
Arsenal were being chased by City, who are a Premier League points machine. So Arsenal’s margin for error was 0.
Botafogo is losing a championship that “nobody” wants to win. Everyone who is in contention for the title has had their crisis and gone a few rounds without a win. One example is Atlético Mineiro, who are 5 points behind Botafogo and have gone 10 games without a win in one part of the league.
Palmeiras also went four games without a win after being eliminated from the Libertadores. Flamengo were a mess under Sampaoli…
So yeah…
If? It’s already gone…
Holy fuck that last 5 looks brutal.
Is 36 year old Suarez playing with 1 knee going to carry a newly promoted team to the title?
Best league in the world!