• R9433@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    We have watched Arteta for 5-6 seasons now… It is clear his decision making his average at best when it comes to coaching.

    He is obviously favoured by the media, and thats the only reason they write nonsense articles like this and why he gets away with his ridiculous sideline antics.

    Any average football fan or coach could tell they had to change how they played due to having more games in more competitions. This isnt genius, it is common sense. Having said that, despite their league position, they have not impressed at all… They are far away from winning the league, and it is probably not even possible under arteta considering their progress against their “rivals.”

    Maritinelli has fallen off a cliff this season. Despite injuries, his output is far too low. Saka has played average but still puts up numbers. The No.9?? I dont even know what to say about the striker situation… Its startling that this wasn’t addressed by management. Odegaard has been nowhere near good enough. Saliba is fine, but I still have doubts about his ceiling and leadership. Havertz? I really rated Havertz at Leverkusen and thought he would be great for Chelsea but having seen how he adapted to the game in England, why the fuck would anyone, let alone, “a world class manager” spend 70m on him and then have no idea where to play him? Shambles so far.

    And Partey rapes women. So fuck him and anyone who supports him.

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      11 months ago

      He joined Arsenal in December 2019. Yeah thats 6 years. Also talking about number 9s, you lot say the same about Nunez that we used to say about Sanogo. ‘He causes chaos’.

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      11 months ago

      seethe, cry, continue being miserable as liverpool will go another 50 years before winning the league again

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        11 months ago

        You guys are so deluded, lol. It is scary…

        Maybe another 100 years, and you can win a European Cup, eh?

    • Retinion@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      This comment is an absolute joke of somebody who clearly knows absolutely nothing about football.

      It is clear his decision making his average at best when it comes to coaching.

      We have the most set piece goals this season, and last season as well as having the best defensive record under Arteta multiple seasons in a row at set pieces.

      We have routinely been scoring large amounts of goals, particularly game changing goals in the final minutes of matches, these are very, very often from substitutions.

      Our style of play is incredibly intricate and highly systematic. This only comes from coaching. Things like Zinchenko’s inverted midfield role is a clear coaching decision.

      Almost every goal conceded has come from refereeing mistakes or individual errors. Not coaching issues at all.

      Any average football fan or coach could tell they had to change how they played due to having more games in more competitions.

      We’re not playing any more games this season than last season.

      Having said that, despite their league position, they have not impressed at all…

      We have the lowest xg against us by a country mile. We have been missing key players all season, and have had huge injury issues with Jesus, Partey, Martinelli, Saka, Nketiah and Odegaard all having injury issues by missing multiple games, and Timber missing the entire season. Not to mention non-key players like ESR having injury issues.

      Maritinelli has fallen off a cliff this season. Despite injuries, his output is far too low

      Utterly ridiculous. He’s having a great season. You clearly look only at an excel sheet to make your opinions.

      Saka has played average but still puts up numbers

      So has Salah then.

      The No.9?? I dont even know what to say about the striker situatio

      You mean having major injury issues all season?

      Saliba is fine, but I still have doubts about his ceiling and leadership.

      Hahahaha.

      Saliba is arguably the best defender in the entire fucking league. He is 22.

      Havertz? I really rated Havertz at Leverkusen and thought he would be great for Chelsea but having seen how he adapted to the game in England, why the fuck would anyone, let alone, “a world class manager” spend 70m on him and then have no idea where to play him? Shambles so far.

      This is a massive diatribe to say you don’t like Havertz.

      Lots of players take a while to settle in to major systematic changes. He’s not been anywhere near as bad as Nunes was for you last season.

      And Partey rapes women. So fuck him and anyone who supports him.

      Partey has rape allegations yes. He is a cunt. We have not commented on them.

      You support Liverpool, your team and fans came out in widespread support of Suarez after he racially abused a player, after he bit a player, and also had Naby Keita on your team who had the same allegations that Partey is facing.

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        11 months ago

        You have no idea what you are saying, lol.

        Artetas decision making is average. 6 seaons of evidence. Saying the opposite doesnt detract from the actual facts.

        Making excuses for being bad because of injuries? Or are you just telling me what I told you? An entire paragraph of bullshit, as usual.

        No, your strikers arent good enough. It is that simple. Injured or not.

        Saliba has done nothing but once again, a nonce reply because its obvious you cant create cohrent point.

        Nice reubbtle once again, Havertz is shit. And you csnt justify the massive price tag or his positioning. Typical deluded arsenal fan

        Nunez has been nowhere NEAR as bad as havertz, lol. Tell me you dont watch Liverpool without telling me. Nunez has been clear of Havertz the moment he arrived in england.

        Suarez didnt rape a woman, mate. Actually fucking deluded.

  • BarryButcher@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    If you look at the “zones of control” last season compared to this, Arsenal do have more defensive control and are closer to City’s level of control compared to last year

    So expect more 1-0’s instead of 3-1’s. This brand of Football is “more likely” to win it but City are still City and haven’t had KDB either. They will walk the league by 10+ points

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      11 months ago

      Don’t think they are walking this year with +10 points. They finished the league last with what 5 points between us and them.

      All the teams are stronger now so games will be harder + they’ve already lost twice this season reckon as long as us and Liverpool put pressure it would be a exciting finish

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        11 months ago

        The 5pt gap wasnt really indicative of their margin in the end. They did have the luxury to completely sacrifice 1 or 2 PL games to better prepare their CL final. They drew to Brighton and lost to Brentford when they didnt need points anymore.

        I do feel like there is a chance that it’s going to be more tight this year, partly because ManCity might be less good, partly because Liverpool and Arsenal look stronger than last year. But I really dont know if it’s going to be enough to beat ManCity to the title.

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    11 months ago

    To be fair the “boring football” opinion could have been used to describe most teams in the PL at some point in the last few decades, whether they are winning or fighting relegation.

    My hot take is that there should be a bonus point system, 3 points for the win + 1 extra point for scoring 4 goals, or 0 points for a loss, but 1 point for losing by a single goal.

    Teams would chase goals more rather than being happy to sit back and defend their 2-0 lead.

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      11 months ago

      A big part of the beauty of football is the simplicity, you make the rules messy and convoluted and people will hate it.

      Also I don’t think it’s fair to punish teams because of how their opponents set up against them. Last season everyone realised you can’t give us space centrally, and you have to double team our wingers. Now we have to play the lowest block in the world on average, and 90% of teams don’t even press us, they just lock down the middle and hope they can deal with the crosses.

      In these games it can be impossible to score four (especially since teams like Everton, Burnley and Sheffield don’t even change their tactics after going down a goal). And I also don’t feel like they should be punished for playing to their strengths, if that’s the best chance they have to get something from the game then let them play like that.

      Instead what we should focus on removing is the unsportsmanlike behaviour which often (but not always) comes with these types of performances. I’m talking about rotational fouling certain players the moment they get in a position to hurt them. Incessant time wasting, often even while a goal down because they want to keep it 1-0 until the 85th and then score a corner/free kick so you don’t have time regain the lead. The diving as soon as they get into the opposition half, big strikers throwing themselves to the ground in every aerial duel because a free kick they can put into the box is the best chance they’ll get at a goal.

      These are the unsportsmanlike parts of traditional “parking the bus”, and that’s the part we should focus on getting rid of imo. Not sitting deep and defending well, that’s a skill too

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      11 months ago

      I always feel like people who suggest shit like this just don’t enjoy football. The point of the game is not constant action and drama, if you want that then watch basketball or whatever.

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        11 months ago

        Very few people actually enjoy football the same way other sports are enjoyed.

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      11 months ago

      The bonus point rule has worked fine in Rugby, but I wouldn’t necessarily say it leads to teams going all out to get the extra point - its exactly what it says; a nice bonus. Plus with the amount of matches these days I would be worried about pushing players even harder.

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      11 months ago

      or maybe the rules themselves should change, to encourage attacking. Right now football is the only sport in the world that I can think of where players actually get REWARDED for committing fouls. Maybe focus on that complete joke of a situation first

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      11 months ago

      It is a form of entertainment after all.

      It is first and foremost, a form of competition. As soon as entertainment takes the stage over competition, it is a completely different thing entirely.

      The reason sports exist is competition first. The reason we find sports entertaining is because of the competition.

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    11 months ago

    i mean boring football can go long ways i hate to mention it but look at greece’s 2004 euro run, boring, boring football but they won the bloody thing

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    11 months ago

    This is why Spurs were always the “Elephant on the branch” this season. All credit to Ange he’s come in and got them playing exciting football in a season where they’ve lost their talisman.

    But the people putting them in title contention conversation really showed their lack of knowledge. It’s unsustainable for a full season to allow that many chances to be conceded and have a chance at winning the league.

    Defensive, patient football can be ugly but it wins you games and subsequently titles

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      11 months ago

      While true it has to be said that Arsenal conceded most of their goals last season after Saliba got injured, along with other injuries affecting their ability to rotate and cover like Tomiyasu, and key ingredients to their transition from defence to midfield like Zinchenko (also Saliba). They started conceding lots of goals even against weaker opposition. This also affected their ability to impact the game further up the pitch.

      I personally think that if they had continued the same form as the first half of the season, they would have won the league. They had already shown resilience in scraping wins in ugly games, showing patience and strong mentality to win.

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      11 months ago

      But Spurs were playing that boring football in previous seasons before Ange?

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      11 months ago

      Up until the Chelsea game our defensive record was really good. We weren’t conceding much and a lot of games we had narrowly won 2-1 1-0 2-0 sometimes scoring late other times by just keeping composure the full 90. It’s only now that we have an injury crisis at the back plus Romeros red card that we are conceding chances like crazy (look at the wolves game)

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    11 months ago

    We have watched Arteta for 5-6 seasons now… It is clear his decision making his average at best when it comes to coaching.

    He is obviously favoured by the media, and thats the only reason they write nonsense articles like this and why he gets away with his ridiculous sideline antics.

    Any average football fan or coach could tell they had to change how they played due to having more games in more competitions. This isnt genius, it is common sense. Having said that, despite their league position, they have not impressed at all… They are far away from winning the league, and it is probably not even possible under arteta considering their progress against their “rivals.”

    Maritinelli has fallen off a cliff this season. Despite injuries, his output is far too low. Saka has played average but still puts up numbers. The No.9?? I dont even know what to say about the striker situation… Its startling that this wasn’t addressed by management. Odegaard has been nowhere near good enough. Saliba is fine, but I still have doubts about his ceiling and leadership. Havertz? I really rated Havertz at Leverkusen and thought he would be great for Chelsea but having seen how he adapted to the game in England, why the fuck would anyone, let alone, “a world class manager” spend 70m on him and then have no idea where to play him? Shambles so far.

    And Partey rapes women. So fuck him and anyone who supports him.

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      I see a lot of really bad comments, this being Reddit and all, but wow.

      Like, literally everything you said is wrong and that’s no easy feat especially seeing how long your post was. I’m almost impressed.

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        11 months ago

        Funny that its only arsenal kids in my replies. They are offended that I am correct. Notice not one of you nonces have an actual coherent reply. Just all denial.

        You are an arsenal fan so are probably impressed by a decent sideways pass

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          Literally nothing you said is correct but please continue to piss your pants on here in front of everyone. It’s going super well for your dumb ass.

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            Yeah, I am. You have proven that by being unable to debate anything I have said.

            You dont seem very bright at all. But that doesnt give you a pass

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              Buddy your points are so bad that nobody even wants to debate you. You are THAT wrong.

              The reason ‘Arsenal kids are here’ is because we, unlike you, actually watch the team. When 90% of the responses to you are ‘yeah this is the dumbest shit I’ve ever read’ take the fucking hint that you are at best - wrong, and at worst - an absolute dipshit. I’m now certain it is both.

              Now go back to your lonely corner of your mom’s basement and shut the fuck up. You’re blocked so don’t even bother responding.

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      i stopped at arteta being favoured by the media point, because it is quite the opposite. you see articles like this one more rarely than the rain in london, but you chose to picture it as an argument to your non sense.