No time for distrowars
…says the guy that makes a meme shitting on users of every other distro.
While at the same time not even using the meme format correctly.
I‘m 14 and this is deep, linux edition. :)
I see this always get commented, but I don’t get it, what’s the right way to use it?
In this meme template both the lowest and highest IQ should say the same thing
Ahh, makes sense, but is it really wrong? To me it’s just a different kind of joke
Lmaoo, moar recursion!
Omegalul
goodun
I mean… Ubuntu is kinda-sorta just Debian with extra steps.
Right, I think there’s another bell curve meme to be made here
The way memes work, yes it is wrong. Memes have a core structure or theme that variations are made around. Changing that core only really works if making a new meme or if making intentional commentary on the original meme itself. In this case by having nothing more than their preferred ranking of distros the creator has actually made themselves the target that the original meme would be making fun of.
Well I can tell you why Linux does not have a higher adoption rate: toxic shit like this.
Na the biggest and main reason why Linux doesn’t have a higher adoption rate (on desktop) is that it’s not preinstalled on the devices you buy.
There are obviously other factors but they are miniscule in comparison
Most people don’t want to have to use a cmd line to use their PC.
Edit: Seriously, why is it such a confusing prospect to linux users that linux is difficult. Literally, every thread on here comparing distros is filled with
“I used debian, but I had to update it every day or my graphics drivers would fail.”
“Oh to fix that regularly occuring issue, just type ‘cgreg320 -I1I0O xx /*poweruninstall the year your motherboard was manufactured’ into the command prompt.”
“Oh yeah, Nvidia graphics cards, AMD motherboards, Steam, Chrome, Adobe products, left-handed mice, and the letter F are unsupported on this distro.”
Windows is easy. Not great, but easy.
Cmon, this might have been true 15 years ago, but my grandma has been using Mint for 5 years + and TRUST ME she don’t know shit about Bash. Big distros work OOTB today, as soon as you stick to regular use you’ll never see a shell in your life.
I revived an old computer using Mint, and it works great, but that’s for my brother who just browses and does spreadsheet and writing. I’m a bit more involved with how I use a computer and it is difficult enough to setup a wireless Xbox controller that I am considering automating it for future use and make that public. Note that I know fuck all about how to even begin, and I might give up halfway through, but the point stands that the motivation was triggered by a lack of user friendliness.
I know people who use linux mint (or other distros that aim at user friendliness) who literally never have to touch the command line. This claim that you need to use the command line was true 5 years ago, but today it is largely false.
I am in a Linux User Group and I am literally the only person who uses a tiling window manager (I use hyprland) instead of DEs like kde, gnome, cinnamon, etc.
I feel like it depends on which distro and hardware you choose. I remember having some weird pcie errors on xubuntu on an HP pc, and I couldn’t find a fix online. Windows is pretty hassle free on almost all hardware, probably owing to the fact that all the hardware is made to work with windows (or owing to windows excellent compatibility, maybe both?)
Using regular Ubuntu on a laptop now it’s pretty seamless though. I haven’t had to do any command line stuff for setup as of yet, so it’s getting better.
Tried out Pop OS for my laptop which is generally seen as a simpler distro. I had to hit up terminal to attempt fprintd. Getting a fingerprint registered was a pain in the ass. Then when I did get it registered, I could not log back in through the UI. I’ll still likely switch to it sometime soom and send the logs to fprintd to eventually fix but it was still frustrating as hell since fingerprint scanners are a pretty basic feature nowadays.
The only issues I’ve really had with my Linux Mint VM is upgrade issues and my smb mount occasionally failing. Both of those basically required terminal.
Don’t get me wrong, Linux is a fuck ton easier than it was 15 years ago when I started testing it out. But there still is a ways to go.
“Seriously, why is it such a confusing prospect to Linux users that Linux is difficult?”
Because honestly? It really isn’t. A couple of years ago, maybe it was hard, but now, Linux is easy to pickup and learn; so easy even someone like me who has zero programming/coding skills (not my profession) and still kinda thinks typing stuff into the terminal is basically black magic was able to pick it up and adopt it with very little hiccups and set it up for my ma on a seperate computer with no problems on her end. Unlearning Windows? That’s the hard bit, especially if you go into Linux (or even Mac, as was the case with me a long time ago) thinking it’s Windows with another skin instead of different beast althogether that has it’s own quirks one needs to get used to, just like with anything new (and just how the majority are used to Windows’s own quirks). That’s where you’ll start having a bad time.
Most people don’t want to have to use a cmd line to use their PC.
“I don’t want know that car needs oil changes, I just want turn key and go”
“Uh oh, car no start.”
/throws car in trash and buys a new one
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux.
Oh no, I can no longer tell if you are serious or making fun of the people who are serious.
The best know how to tread the line perfectly. Some say that even they don’t know if they’re serious.
Haha 😀 This is Linux memes community afterall ƪ(˘⌣˘)ʃ
This is GNU/Linux memes community
You’re such a shit. 😀
Tomato potato potato tomato.
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Fueds between distros will always exist, like fueds between car manufacturers. It’s just banter, except some people take it wayyyy too far.
All the parrots doing Ubuntu bashing over the last few years are really hurting adoption in my opinion. It still is the best Linux OS for new users for many reasons, even if there are many other ones that might be better suited for other uses or preferences.
Riddle me this—I’ve used Windows, MacOS, Debian, Fedora, and Ubuntu to host a Plex server over the last 12ish years, and Ubuntu has been the most stable, hands down. Currently I’ve got a bunch of VM’s on ProxMox, but Plex still hums away on an Ubuntu Server LTS VM without a hitch.
I have plenty of reasons to chose other distros for specific needs, but when I want something to just work and be easy on me, Ubuntu is the right choice, and it is definitely a solid place for anyone to start getting into the Linux way of life.
No riddle really. The last time I checked, Ubuntu was the most used server Linux OS. Just like RHEL, it’s tested for and used in the enterprise, but unlike RHEL, everyone gets the same copy, including you and me. It follows that it should be solid. A big part of that comes from Debian of course, but there’s additional testing and patching in Ubuntu. It’s no wonder it just works.
but which distro YOU use?
It’s a meme
This is parroted all the time, all the while linux is doing just fine.
Why is adoption rate such an important metric?
Actually it’s because Linux users are all mentally ill.
Isn’t the point of this meme for the low IQ and high IQ people to have the same preference? Any way, I’m on Linux Mint usually -_-
Well, ubuntu is based on debian, so it is the same preference.
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Can confirm. I’m using Kubuntu because the Debian installer didn’t detect my hardware correctly and I couldn’t be bothered to figure out why. Aside from snaps, I don’t care.
I think by default the debain installer doesn’t have any proprietary code.
I think by default the debain installer doesn’t have any proprietary code.
ah noice
From freedom, came elegance
How is Gentoo keeping it simple?
I think the insinuation of the gigantic brain is that it’s not
Simple is unfortunately the negation for complicated and complex, which are slightly different things. Ubuntu is not complicated, but complex. Gentoo is complicated, but not as complex (at least it can be).
lol aren’t complicated and complex synonyms (as adjective)?
No, there’s a pretty important difference.
Quick attack users of the most popular distro before normal people start using Linux! We can’t allow a good, stable and perfectly usable distro to get popular, we need to bully everyone back to windows or terrible things might happen like the year of they Linux desktop!!
Quick Attack? Like the pokeymun move?
It’s not very effective.
XD
This is so stupid. They’re all fine.
Apart from your favourite distro of course!
H u m o u r
I use Linux Mint because I like Mint Ice Cream
I use Parrot in honour of my parrot Loba
I use Ubuntu Mate because I’ve always wanted one
I use Peppermint because it’s my favourite flavor of gum
I use Rocky Linux because he’s my favourite American Hero
I use fedora because I know it will come back in style
I use gnome because it’s in my DNA
I use arch btw
Good poem :D
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A bell curve featuring numerous wojaks and Linux distribution system icons by IQ score. From left to right they are: At the left 0.1% end of the bell curve with no IQ score labels is a boomlet wojak accompanied by Ubuntu icon and the text: WHERE START BUTTON? Between 0.1% and 14% on the left side of the bell curve, encompassing the IQ scores 55 and 70 is an NPC wojak accompanied by the Arch icon and the text: I USE ARCH BTW Between 14% on the left side of the bell curve and approximately 34% on the right side of the bell curve, encompassing the IQ scores 85, 100, and 115 is a crying Zoomer wojak accompanied by the Fedora icon and the text: JUST WORKS Between 34% and 0.1% on the right side of the bell curve, encompassing the IQ scores 130 and 145 is a big brain wojak accompanied by the Gentoo icon and the text: K.I.S.S At the right 0.1% end of the bell curve is a light brown hood wojak accompanied by the Debian icon and the text: NO TIME FOR DISTROWARS
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Well done and thank you! A minor mistake: when describing the Fedora user you wrote “test” instead of "text’
Haha, thanks for catching that! I’m glad it was just a typo.
Thank you for providing a multimodal caption. While I don’t need it I know people who do and they appreciate it.
I can see the image, but the transcription still helps to clarify the meaning.
Bah, all the same, Linux 6.4, Xfce 4.18, be it Debian or Arch, there is no difference except the package management…
There’s no difference except for the biggest difference between distros, right. Also the kernel and DE version isn’t even necessarily the same across distros.
Laughs in Linux From Scratch
Debian is for people who have shit to get done and don’t care about a neon colored wallpaper, mostly don’t have a wallpaper at all.
Default wallpaper FTW
Real Chads don’t use a DE.
It’s a lot harder to get Nvidia drivers working on Debian than any other distro I’ve tried including Arch and including Gentoo. Every issue besides that one I’ve ever had in Debian, I was able to fix.
How so? If you have non-free enabled, shouldn’t
apt install nvidia-driver
work?I’m about to get a chance to try it on a different pc (M5A am3 with a Titan X), but on a x79 motherboard and a 1080ti, that doesn’t work. After installing that, I do get the Nvidia x server but when I open the program, it’s an empty window and something is obviously broken. I installed Arch on the same pc and it was even easier to get Nvidia drivers working than on Ubuntu.
NixOS: from where I am, you’re indistinguishable
Haiku: from where I am, you’re all Linux
Kompile It yourSSelf
This was me, except I went straight from Ubuntu to Debian. At some point I wondered why I was doing all this manual maintenance. I realized that Ubuntu relies on Debian and so I switched. Haven’t looked back.
My last Ubuntu install would break my shit all the time. Debian is so much more reliable it’s incredible. Haven’t had to mess with anything in almost two years on my debian install whereas Ubuntu required constant maintenance.
It’s a shame Ubuntu’s so popular because Canonical seems to be absolutely awful at testing their package updates compared to any other common desktop distro. I’ve had far fewer issues with Debian, Fedora and SUSE
Interesting. I‘ve installed ubuntu server on my homeserver and added a couple of services like two years ago. I‘m constantly improving stuff and so far, nothing went wrong. I also had a couple ubuntu servers at work, no issues like ever.
I also installed ubuntu desktop recently and it’s a little buggy (my fault as I didn’t use the lts version I suppose).
As an Ubuntu user I feel called out. But the callout is also fair… I am conflicted. Is it a mitigating factor that it’s a headless server?
You should stay on Ubuntu if it work for you. This is just a meme. There is no need to feel bad and force yourself to switch just because other people think your distro is bad :)
Wait am I missing something? What did canonical do this time?
Not judging, just curious: If it’s a headless server, what does Ubuntu do better than Debian?
Edit: Better community support/documentation?
I find that installing things from repos you typically get something far more up to date with Ubuntu than Debian.
Some corporations are switching from Redhat-based (CentOS/Alma/Rocky) to Ubuntu because it offers a professional level of support in the event that support is needed.
Personally, I prefer Debian for servers and Arch for desktop.
Yeah, still haven’t decided which distro to replace our CentOS-alikes with. Bothers me.
Doesn’t AlmaLinux offer professional support?
Sure, but given red hats shenanigans we can’t just go on with status quo. The servers I have to replace are goijg to something else than a RH downstream.
When I decided to set up my own server my only Linux experience was experimenting with regular Ubuntu. So Ubuntu server was the closest thing to it, and I figured I would have to re-learn fewer commands. It’s also been my impression that because a lot of inexperienced folks like me start with Ubuntu, that’s where the most beginner-friendly instructions are likely to be. I didn’t really know what Debian was.
Fair enough.
FWIW, Debian is 98% the same anyway since Ubuntu is downstream from Debian. I’d choose Ubuntu over Debian for desktops but opposite for servers.
Usual sentiment of “the best distro is the one that works for you”. I can just say that I found Ubuntu to do a confusing “splitting the difference”. It requires more knowledge than using, say, windows, but also tries to hand hold. I put in a lot of time with Raspbian, and now Debian on a desktop, and I like it better because there’s less “in-between”.
I’d kind of stumble through windows, sort of getting what was going on but mostly having faith and a hands off approach to what was going on underneath the hood. I didn’t really understand or learn much other than keyword recognition and a passing concept of broad principles. Rasbian and then Debian forced and encouraged me to get under the hood more, so when I was troubleshooting I was at least learning why things weren’t working. When I had display issues, it wasn’t “I clicked the wrong box” it was “because of my SSD my kernel has a race condition with the video driver and x”. Not that I would, but I get now how you can slim down an OS for a specific hardware platform if you really wanted. Having done a ton of microcontroller stuff where I was getting different chips and whatnot talking to each other succesfully, this was a HUGE missing piece. “Real computers” aren’t a black box mystery to me anymore, even if I’d suck at proper computer engineering.
Ubuntu kind of over optimized so I didn’t learn, but was being asked to do more under the hood anyway. I kept looking at it as adjusting settings the way I did with windows, even though it was asking more of me in terms of understanding to troubleshoot.
But again, that’s me and my experience, and more so it’s based off of how I personally learn. I’m still not overly familiar with Ubuntu, but I get now that there’s no reason you can’t do what I described above, it just never “clicked” for me.
The way you describe Ubuntu as asking you to do more under the hood, and you seeing it as adjusting settings, really rings true to me. Often I find myself frustrated at having to jump through so many hoops to do simple stuff. I like learning to use Linux but sometimes I just don’t have the time for it
Arch is Debian sid with a better package manager
Checkmate liberals.
Oh look, another fascist NSA systemd backdoor supporter!
/throws molotov
aggree