“Scheming EU states” is a total flame bait headline. The UK is not part of the EU, so why should they be included in any of this? They should be HAPPY about the EU not “meddling” with their “freedom”!
Not only that, but there are also two arrows on this map going into the UK. It’s up to the UK to take care of how well these arrows connect to important locations within their borders. There really doesn’t appear to be an issue whatsoever.
These arrows already exist! The France one is the English tunnel and the Ireland one is there because they need to make Ireland feel like one island. The uk dont have much control over how well they connect to their border. I think the uk would have benefited from this plan as they seem to be having problems with trains
All I hear is that scheming EU is shooting two arrows at the UK.
I found the wikipedia article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-European_Transport_Network#List_of_transport_networks
Apparently initial proposals for this pre-date brexit by 26 years.
This is a Daily Express article. Utter trash, right wing yellow journalism. Rabidly pro-brexit, endorsed Liz Truss for PM. You know, the weird cheese lady who was outlasted by a lettuce.
Obviously brexit isn’t going so well and neither is the latest tory PM, so it’s time for their daily article about how the foreigners done ruined Engerland.
endorsed Liz Truss for PM
Geezus…
Outdone by lettuce
outlasted by a lettuce.
American here. How much is that converted to Mooches?
If that idiotic and corrosive Brexit campaign had been defeated, the headline might be screaming how scheming EU nations drag the UK into their expensive transport plans.
Also the same mindless parrots on their tellys and newspapers would be mindlessly arguing the point, tossing out word salads, exactly as they would with the EU making their plans and keeping the UK out of them.
Meanwhile, non-voters who could have made a difference will be just as idiotic on polling day: “Politics is for wankers/both parties are the same. Shall we go for drinks?”
I’d welcome the EU meddling in my freedom; certainly would be better than the Tories
It’s the Daily Express, an offshoot of the Daily Mail. They both have ridiculously anti EU slants and have had those for decades
Every since the thought occurred to me I can’t stop thinking about it. There is just this entire class of people out there who do no real work, are paid money to tell us how they should be running things, and whose only plan in running things is to take something that works and break it.
The UK doesn’t need to be part of this really, there’s one link to mainland Europe (the channel tunnel) and the rest should just be sensible UK road and rail network planning. NI and Ireland already have ways to cooperate when it comes to planning transport on the Ireland of Island.
I say “in theory” because our government just scrapped HS2 phase 2, so our rail network is going to continue to be shit for years.
sensible UK road and rail network planning
How many decades has it been since THAT last happened, though?
I say “in theory” because our government just scrapped HS2 phase 2, so our rail network is going to continue to be shit for years.
Oh. Same page, it would seem 😁
This is from the Daily Express, which is a paper that’s full of these sort of ragebait, horseshit headlines.
Notably it was the first major paper to back Brexit. They should be delighted about this. Fucking mould-ridden wankstains.
If they identified themselves by hating anti-EU pieces, I imagine it’s hard do stop.
Ragebait for tories, perhaps. I find it delicious
I honestly thought it was sarcasm.
Wasn’t the UK govt also complaining about their tax money going into funding EU projects like this?
No one said they didn’t want these kind of projects. They just didn’t want to have to pay for them.
I lived in Britain during the Leave campaign and it was all about getting the benefits without the responsabilities or costs.
In fact, the sequence of political events that lead to the Leave Referendum was Britain in the EU trying to have less and less obligations whilst keeping the benefits of Membership to the point that eventually, when the UK demanded “otherwise we have a Referedum on Leave” to not to have to abide by Freedom Of Movement into their country whilst keeping all the rest including Freedom Of Movement for Britons into other EU countries, the rest of the EU said “No!”. After this, David Cammeron was under huge pressure to do the Referendum “to show the EU” and the rest is History.
The La-La-Land fantasism of the Leave side was always unbelievable, with everything from genuine expections of, post leave, having “Same Rights as Members With No Obligations”, to after Brexit “Other EU Nations will Follow Us Out”.
I would say that by this point it’s clear that whatever Britain is “showing the EU” isn’t quite what was in Leaver fantasies.
I’m definitely just a dumb American but I love how apparently “What is Brexit” was the biggest UK web search the day it got approved.
To be fair that is because it was sold to the public on outright lies and the readings of a couple of unscrupulous twats.
Johnson for example had always been pro-eu and reportedly had two articles written, one remain and one leave, and based his decision of which one to publish on which was more politically expedient for him, not on what he actually thought was better for the country.
Ohh no how can they not include me in their plan after i burn the bridges with them
Dude, who cares about Australia n Britain being left out?.. They left my mighty 'Merica out of the picture! 😔🖼️ SMH
Scheming EU to make an EU travel plan for countries that didnt voluntarily leave the EU to pursue some racist bullshit propaganda that even the people who started brexit, deep down, didnt want, and never thought would actually happen.
Now departing Fuck Around; next stop, Find Out!
EUxit? Didn’t the EU exit from the UK a couple years ago?
Nah… That was Russia
Other way around
Woooooshh
Nope, it was EU sponsored campaign to remove UK. For obvious reasons
Edit: not sure if I’m getting downvoted for a lame joke, someone taking it seriously or just brits
I just assumed you were being serious, for obvious reasons. But as a Brit I find it funny
New maps for Ticket to Ride just dropped
I would unironically buy this if they really just dropped the lines from UK so it just appears on the board as a blank spot lmao
Technically you would still be buying it out of irony but I get your meaning
What’s truly bullshit about this map is Hungary. To get anywhere, you have to go through Budapest and it’s been like this since the last 150 years, when it comes to rail. Even though it has at least seven metropolitan areas outside of Pest county with population above 100k… NOPE! You have to go through two of the three major railway stations of Budapest.
What’s worse is say you are a local to Hungary and you live east of the Danube. You want to visit Lake Balaton in the west. You have to take the train to Budapest. You then transfer by Metró to the other railway station. And then take another train to the lake. Three fares and two transfers, which might be fine as an individual but adds up in costs and stress if you are with family or have accessibility needs. And by accessibility needs I’m just talking about being elderly (who mostly travel free or at a very reduced rate) or a stroller.
Why is it set up that way?
Everybody in Europe needs to go to spas in Budapest. It’s medicinal. And required.
Our capitol was always overprioritiezed because of some kind of elitism.
I can only guess the reasons but I experienced this frustration when I needed to go from the very north to the very east of the country and still had to go through Budapest.
France is no different, going anywhere by TGV ? You’d best like going via Paris
The Trans-European Transport Project has been ongoing since the '90s.
And since I was curious, here are the new guidelines adopted last week. Nothing revolutionary but an evolution in the right direction. I do find it personally interesting that the TEN-T apparently did not previously formally take into account military mobility…
TETP is just a nefarious scheme to dictate glorious typography to member states. Seriously that thing is good: Ridiculously legible and specifically so in “big font at long distances” situations, meanwhile both friendly and authoritative – exactly the kind of thing you want when asking for the way. No “yeah let me think where was that intersection” or “can’t you find your own way” but “Of course! Go straight ahead, first to the left, then the second right”.
Now if the EU would get around to telling member states that they should learn from each other in overall traffic and urban design, and follow the best practices that they can find anywhere. Which is diplomatic language for “Do as the Dutch do”.
Are those tunnels to ireland?
Under the water?
Are people not sketched out by that? That sounds terrifying
The dotted lines are ferry routes.
I don’t see any dots motherf- zooms in …oh.
Maybe with your name you should avoid the water entirely? Didn’t end so well last time…
Good god thats so much better
Ferries are pretty nice, we recently used them for a NL -> EN -> WA -> IE -> SCO -> NL trip and they were nice. Some of them had plenty of entertainment and felt quite nice, others a bit more run down but still fine. The best was taking the overnight ones, you sleep on board and disembark fresh and ready to go in the morning at your destination and costs less than having a separate hotel night.
The floating tunnels weren’t working out so well
They’re long range heavy impulse air routes using catapults…
Bridges, with a mid ocean interchange
The trains can fly… only to literally crash at the destination’s train station. Somehow, everyone miraculously survives every single time.
That actually sounded way more terrorist than I wanted it to.
Are You?
Nah, everyone must live.
Look at the one to Cyprus
“Daylight 2: Erin Go Bragh”
Are you spooked by La Manche tunnel? It exists.
Pfft, they’re lucky the French don’t bomb their end of the chunnel.
Knowing the french they are just waiting for the UK to look at them wrong so they can do that. After a few weeks of rioting of course.
Of course. The je ne sais quoi is rioting, always. As is the avec.
I imagine sad, regretful brits dining/vacationing are a boon to the economy.
I see two arrows leading into the UK. One across the channel and the other into NI, FFS.
Don’t like those arrows pointing at the UK, feels a bit Dad’s Army.
Two too many, if you ask me. They wanted out, happy they are out. Maybe help Scotland separate and join the EU again, but that’s where it ends.
Why not liberate northern Ireland and reunite it with the rest
Because some of the people there really wouldn’t like that.
It’s complicated 😞…
There’s a smidge more nuance to that whole situation.
I think the bottom one, at least, already exists and is the channel tunnel the Eurostar uses
I never knew the leopards would eat my face!
Hey look! It’s find out time! Can’t wait for 2024 in the US!