• ililiililiililiilili@lemm.ee
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      6 months ago

      The cloud is just someone else’s computer. If we could normalize people holding their own data, that would be fantastic. I get that your grandma has a hard time backing up to multiple locations (and testing her backups). Convenient? Definitely. I just don’t think your average person understands the ramifications of trusting these for-profit monopolies with complete control of their data. It seems like a magical refuge to far too many.

      • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        Although, the usual two caveats still apply:

        First, isn’t the operative problem “for-profit monopolies”, not “cloud data storage”, as in, it just needs to be state-owned and open?

        Second, in the vast vast vast majority of cases, people don’t care because if someone stole all their online data, the problem would not be the data stolen. It’d be having to set up a new account as the password got changed, getting the card blocked and getting a new one, etc. It’s like a wallet being lost, it sucks and is annoying but we don’t all glue the wallets to the inside of our pockets just to prevent that. Meaning, even given knowledge of the issue, most would say the downside is not an actual downside to them given the convenience and the time it saves. (That’s why it works in the first place, mind you)

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      6 months ago

      Linking your account stores your activation key on your account. For most people, this means they never have to bother with programs like Magical Jelly Bean and writing the key down somewhere only to be lost.

      Using a local-only account doesn’t increase your ownership in this case.

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    6 months ago

    And not being able to log into my own fucking machine if I lose internet access, or if Microsoft servers are on fire? Absolutely fucking not.

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      6 months ago

      If? As someone who works for a Microsoft CSP there is no if, it is always a when.

      But in all seriousness the you don’t auth to ms when you login. You have a local pin that only works on that system.

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        6 months ago

        Yeah I know my internet craps itself out every now and then, it’s just a fact of life. I like my things on my machines to work regardless of that.

        Anyway, that second explanation, doesn’t sound much better. Then again, I don’t think I’m going to use Windows again when 10 goes EoL.

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    6 months ago

    Didn’t they already do that? When you did a fresh install a couple years ago, there were already warnings that you should switch.

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      6 months ago

      Yeah, they made it obtrusive and difficult to setup local accounts. I think their whole system is confusing as fuck now, with PINs, windows hello shit, and a microsoft account password. I had to setup a whole new email just to get a kids account going, probably so they can track everything my kid is doing, which is downright creepy. So I tried to make a local account, but it seems like they’re still tracking that somehow anyway.

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        6 months ago

        Everyone using Windows should install a telemetry blocking program. This one just adds all Microsoft telemetry IP addresses into Windows Firewall with a “block” setting.

        Just don’t use the “Add update rules” feature because that blocks Windows Update. Just add the telemetry rules.

        In addition, you can also change the IP address Windows uses for the “Am I connected to the internet?” test that Windows does all the time. Instead of letting Microsoft know every single time you boot your PC or connect to WiFi, you can instead have it check a Debian server. Or a Mozilla one, I think.

        https://crazymax.dev/WindowsSpyBlocker/download/