First they were the second most powerful army in the world.
Then they were the second most powerful in Ukraine.
And now they are the second most powerful in Russia.
I like they way this is going 🤗.
Second most powerful in Moscow 🤞😬🤞
Second most powerful in Putin’s dreams
Second most powerful in all of their military bases.
Would be wild if they took over Russia and Zelenskyy became the president of Russia.
Can countries still annex other countries like that these days?
And now they are the second most powerful in Russia.
I think it’s been that way for longer than people think. Remember when Wagner just rolled through Russia without any resistance? Putin’s might has always been false promises/ blackmail, but it’s obvious now that Russia hasn’t had the means to back itself up for a while now
Prigozhin should have waited to betray Russia until Ukraine was in a position like this.
Seems like he was an idiot, though. IDK what level of delusional hubris one needs to be on to travel to Moscow after an attempt such as that.
Nazis have now assumed marching on Moscow would work out for them twice, maybe it’s just a related mental defect.
The fact that people like you can rationalize the Kremlin’s far-right, proto-fascist ideology as some sort of anti-Nazi movement is just more proof that the biggest threat to humanity is ingorance combined with a near-infinite potential for self-serving delusions. We desperately need to reform our formal education systems and limit the impact of authoritarian propaganda as much as possible, and from there the number of victims, like Dragon.
they made a classic blunder- the one slightly more well known than getting into it with a scillian when death is on the line! Getting into a land war in Asia!
Wait. But aren’t they Asia? Lol
Russia is. (ukraine may not be. Usually the distinction is a bit further east of Ukraine- around the ural mountains.)
but.
Russia definitely are asian. So. given that they picked a fight on their border… I’m gonna go ahead and say “close enough” to make fun of them.
Lol I’ll join you on this one
I think it’s probably more correct to say Russia straddles the border between Europe and Asia. The people in charge are European, and Asian Russians are treated more like serfs and cannon fodder. Disclaimer: I am not a social scientist.
It’s more correct to say Europe is vibes (of white people) and not an actual continent, thus the term Eurasia.
Most of productive thoughts throughout the pre-soviet russian history was wasted on that exact question. No joke. That long-going identity crisis even caused a divide within the elites about the choice of following either the european footsteps (westerners) or going on their own (slavic-philes).
Interesting. I’ll have to go into some research on this one.
The correct russian names for these two groups are западники and славянофилы. I feel like googling them like this you’d encounter better results. But they are limited to one period of history while the question itself was before and after them.
In Asia? Ukraine isn’t in Asia, even western Russia isn’t considered to be in Asia…
They’re quoting a line from the Princess Bride.
…which everyone should watch at some point, because it’s delightful.
Go Ukraine, fuck Russia.
A not very wealthy country of about only 120 million people wanted to play superpower.
They were offered peace, cooperation and prosperity, but instead they chose corruption and confrontation.
Russia could very possibly have been the biggest economy in Europe by now, if they had chosen cooperation. That would have made them more powerful and influential than all the bullshit they’ve pulled to undermine the west and their neighbors.I totally agree.
After the collapse of the Soviet Union, they were handed everything they wanted on a silver plate.
They could have been Poland on steroids.
But they chose to reject it, so stupid.
Russians have been brainwashed for centuries by their elites to thinking corruption is the natural order of things.
They can’t believe that western nations can have shows of wealth and quality of life standards they do, because that means the way they and their ancestors have lived for decades isn’t how people are supposed to live.
Their elites steal everything, ensure education standards are low as possible so their workers can just barely manage to operate in a factory, on a farm or in a mine, and then encourage them to stay drunk as possible during their waking hours.
And then they wonder why Russians who manage to emigrate west never go home and sooner or later cut all contact with their backwards motherland.
Frankly if it hadn’t been for the advent of Nuclear Weapons, and Soviets stealing designs for them from America, Russia never would have been a Superpower at all and probably collapse in on itself in the 60s.
Their elites steal everything
You think the western elites don’t? It’s just slower…
The trick is not to steal faster than the economy can produce. It’s like organic, fair trade, sustainable kleptocracy.
Western elites do steal, true. But to no where near the same extent. We’d have trillionaires in the west if they stole as much as Russian oligarchs do.
We will have them
Russians have been brainwashed for centuries by their elites
Meanwhile western have been brainwashed for centuries by their elites to thinking russians are the bogeyman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
Elites steal everything everywhere not just in russia
wanted to play superpower
As someone who is from that region, it’s not even that. A whole lot of countries want to play superpower, and they are only mildly hated for it. The US, the French, even the Chinese are an abstract economic threat. The Russians want to play 18th century superpower and that makes them a concrete military threat.
The stupid thing is, just by looking at the state of the world right now, they totally would have won the long game if they went soft power only. Putin is a failure that way as well I guess.
Russia could very possibly have been the biggest economy in Europe by now,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War
Countries are at war with each others.
What’s your point? It clearly states the cold war ended with the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991.
Most of eastern Europe chose to democratize, and they are way better off today than in 1991. But Russia chose to undermine the west and the countries around them, instead of cooperation.Countries are at war with each others.
That’s not a law of nature by any means.
But Russia chose to undermine the west and the countries around them, instead of cooperation.
West and russia have been at war since WWII and even before read the article on cold war carefully.
At some point we’ll probably have to admit that they’re culturally not inclined to do good. That and the rampant alcohol abuse is holding them back.
This is just racist.
Racism is when you think certain groups of people are biologically inferior. Thinking a culture can be dysfunctional is something else entirely. Nobody questions the propriety of saying the culture of a company or other organization is dysfunctional, so why would a country (or its dominant culture) be different?
Nobody bats an eye when people say Japanese and Korean work cultures are insane, for example, and nobody thinks it’s racist when left-leaning Americans comment on the culture of their conservative countrymen. Nobody even seems to think “meanwhile in Russia” memes are inappropriate, even though they’re an implicit commentary on Russian culture.
Now, I do think “culturally not inclined to do good” is unfair and painting with an overly broad brush, but I also think the persistent suffering of people in and around Russia can only be explained by something about Russian culture.
Whatever
Putin is finally making history, his legacy will now be remembered forever. What a great accomplishment! They said it would be over in 3 days, over two years later and now Ukrainian troops are in control of Russian territory.
Amazing what Ukraine has managed to pull off here. Watching closely to see how this unfolds.
You mean Putin, the Poisoner of Underwear?
Marvel are really running out of villains for their new movies…
Another chance to use my new Ukrainian Riker!
(He’s Rikrainian.)
He’s going to struggle to perform the riker manoeuvre with a horn of that size…
It’s about the commitment to the leg throw, not the size of the hog in the hedgerow
Sage words. I will need time to contemplate.
Jesus Christ, this is painful to read if you can read Cyrillic letters
To my knowledge, it’s the first time in history that a non-nuclear power invaded and occupied territory belonging to a nuclear power.
So, that’s even more dubious history Putin played a part in.
Well, if you consider Israel to be a nuclear power…
Serious question: was Israel really occupied at any point in time during, this or past, post maybe nuclear power times?
I don’t think a short term raid that’s immediately repelled necessarily counts as occupation in this sense.
My Israel history is also very limited
I don’t know much history either. Maybe Sinai in the Yom-Kippur war (1973)?
Sinai in the Yom-Kippur
I think that seems reasonable fair to count?
Edit: US Gov was convinced in '75 but that’s only by the point they were convinced, and its quite possible it was prior.
Edit: just reading more, but this was a pretty cool event from the war
The Egyptian Army put great effort into finding a quick and effective way of breaching the Israeli defenses. The Israelis had built large 18-metre (59 foot) high sand walls with a 60-degree slope and reinforced with concrete at the water line. Egyptian engineers initially experimented with explosive charges and bulldozers to clear the obstacles, before a junior officer proposed using high pressure water cannons. The idea was tested and found to be a sound one, and several high pressure water cannons were imported from Britain and East Germany. The water cannons effectively breached the sand walls using water from the canal.
As long as no one’s nuclear trigger fingers get itchy, I’ll be happy.
Good for Ukraine.
Ukraine and Russia are uniting into one country. Just not the way Putin envisioned.
Russia = New Ukraine 🇺🇦
Yes, it’s the embarrassment that’s really important here. 🙄
So is this the game rulers are playing? Embarrass each others at the expense of millions of people?
Its pretty much a tale as old as time. Read the “little nicky” letters sent between rulers leading up to World War 1. Like shitposting commenters online faceless, nameless people are just cannon fodder to these people.
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OK, yes, but how are the front lines further south going?
Russia has undeniably made gains. Avdiivka is comparable in size to the Russian territory taken by Ukraine. Except it took Russia a year and 30,000 casualties and hundreds of armored vehicles losses. Ukraine’s push into Russia has happened over days and Russia still hasn’t pivoted with a coherent response.
