• ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Let’s pretend for a second that voting blue would stop the slaughter at “just” the Palestinians (it doesn’t).

      If you think you’re knowingly sacrificing an entire people to annihilation just so save your own skin, and you can not only live with that but argue in favor of it instead of redacting your entire government, you’re a fucking nazi. Peddle your them-or-us genocide support somewhere else you blue maga piece of shit.

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        redacting your entire government

        And this right here is why I can’t take you seriously. You realize the US government is the most militarily powerful institution on Earth, right? Even disregarding government opposition to your revolution of the status quo, you realize every far-righter is armed to the teeth and fantacizes daily about murdering you and your comrades, right? How are you gonna oppose that? Who will be your allies? Fascist Putin’s Russia, who straight up wants Trump to win so he can enact his expansionist policies unopposed?

        While you’re there LARPing as a revolutionary, millions of lives are at stake. Sure, the democrats also put millions of lives at stake, I’m well aware of it, but it’s not about them being perfect, it’s about harm reduction and starting from the best possible position for going forward with your goals, which I guarantee is not with Trump in power.

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      You can fight the trolley itself instead of justifying supporting genocide.

      PS this is the real world not a meme. Political power is not a trolley problem, it is a matter of organization and education. You disempower yourself and others by pretending you can only backseat cheerlead a genocide. Instead of supporting this, go and join an organization that is actually opposing it and start doing work.

      In the US, every student is eventually presented with lessons on the Holocaust and asked to think about what they would do. Right now, to be honest, your answer would have to be, “support it using poorly thought out propaganda”.

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        Very long way of saying you’re looking forward to trump being in power again and forever taking away your right to vote.

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          9 hours ago

          My comment already contradicts your response, even with its inventions. Please try to address what I say rather than making things up.

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            You said to Organize and admit a genocide is occurring, while not letting yourself be convinced that voting is the only course of action.

            I’m saying that’s awesome but what do we do when trump gets elected because no one wants to vote now?

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              You said to Organize and admit a genocide is occurring, while not letting yourself be convinced that voting is the only course of action.

              Of course voting is not the only course of action. Voting is incredibly little. What, you check a box? Maybe wait a few hours at most to get into a pilling station? Dear God.

              This is an incredibly limited amount of political action, particularly given the way in which box checking translates into any political action (electoral college, media monopolies, biased education, wage slavery limiting political education, campaigns built on donations from capital).

              I’m saying that’s awesome but what do we do when trump gets elected because no one wants to vote now?

              You actually do political work. You become educated and join an organization that does more than act as a sheepdog that turns alienatuon into genocide votes.

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                And in the end Trump wins the vote and you lose your oppurtunity to do any real politcal work! Congrats.

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                  Trump was already president once and my political work was actually easier because liberals were outraged and could not understand the complicoty of their representatives. Their representatives merely reflect the cynical apathy of their position that is shielded when they are in power.

                  If Trump were an existential threat would you just be sitting around posting bad logic? You know he is just an incremental partial detriment in some ways and some vague miasma in other ways. Biden is, for example, a much more coherent genocidal Zionist, as is Harris.

                  Rather than quibble about how to appease one’s inner Eichmann, why not fight against it?

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                    Trump was already president once and my political work was actually easier because liberals were outraged and could not understand the complicoty of their representatives.

                    Hope you can look trans and queer people in the eye and tell them their genocide will be worth it in the end because you’ll stop all genocides. You know, after they’re dead and gone.

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      Just openly admitting you support genocide. Disgusting. And don’t even pretend you care about anyone represented in the bottom half of the image; if Democrats said murdering trans folks was necessary to beat Trump, you’d support that too.