Yes I am! This government pamphlet I got says so!
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Huh, I wonder who that’s for.
Literally everyone.
That’s the point.Oooh… Now I get It…
I don’t need to be immune to propaganda. I live in [country], the best country of the world. We don’t need no propaganda, that’s just something that [other side of globe] countries do, as well as [neighbour country] of course.
But, but I’m special
this is a god reminder on lemmy
While this is true, the complete absence of foreign and/or free media in some countries doesn’t even give you a chance of forming educated opinions.
Hexbear people are very immune to propaganda. Maybe even reverse immune
hexbear people are hated here because they are not specifically on the american propaganda pipeline
This guy hexbears
Yes, they downloaded the CCP propaganda pipe line.
I also definitely don’t hate the hexbear people, I find them fascinating.
bro they literally cheer for North Korea and treat Taiwan as an enemy.
neither of us know anything about north korea
i wont assume they are the bad guys just because the USA said so
also i tought their argument about taiwan is that its part of china, not that they are actually bad
I don’t assume they’re bad guys just because the US says so.
Listen to stories of people who fled North Korea. It’s a fascist regime, no way around it.
It’s true, I spoke with somebody who escaped from there and they said that rats eat babies and then people eat the rats and then the babies eat the rats and the baby looked at me.
Okay or just read a real testimony
That is real. Are you doubting the cartoonish evil and depravity of North Korea? Seems like you’ve been fooled by the tankist propaganda.
Nah they’re hated because they act like middleschoolers trying to be edgy
It’s crazy. Literally seen the same stuff I see in alt right spaces over there. Crazy
For real. I saw a lot of " Ukraine has nazis!!!" Over there.
But then again im with the CIA. So what do i know.
It’s insane. I know Ukraine has a neo nazi issue, so does the US. And Germany and England and most other countries. Brazil has fucking Nazis who are Hispanic ffs.
But if they’re trying to say only Ukraine has Nazis and not Russia they’re outside their fuckin minds. I literally have met Russian Nazis, I know Russia has way more Nazis than Ukraine.
Authoritarians gonna authoritate.
They’re just very susceptible to different propaganda.
I know. That’s why I got rid of tv in the 90s and won’t stay where commercial radio is being played.
and won’t stay where commercial radio is being played.
Omg. Radio is the most propagandized media. It hurts my brain when it is playing.
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There’s this sentiment that all journalism cannot be trusted. But if so, how does anyone ever get to find out anything at all? Word of mouth? Gut feeling? Distrust of journalism is reasonable, but not good enough. There are specific reasons why misinformation exists and you need to know WHY that is so. Because otherwise you discount information which is true, and the end result is the same as you’d get with blind trust: A false understanding of the world.
Everyone has a false understanding of the world to an extent. All you can do is have good intuation about who to trust
Especially Garfield! Perfectly designed to worm himself into the minds of those in corporate America.
It’s true. Starcadian is too good to be immune to.
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Eh. The older I get, the more neutral and apathetic I get. Everything seems to come from some direction with a degree of bias.
It’s like fed articles on the war in Ukraine. If things were as positive as articles from both sides regularly claim, it wouldn’t be where it is in Sep 2023. I get propaganda is also used to positively influence morale and support—and I encourage it for Ukraine—but it sure would be nice to see more unbiased reporting and posting. As it is, just got to kind of determine a median of the propaganda and that’s likely the actual situation.
The most frustrating part about not being influenced by propaganda is that pro-Russia and pro-Ukraine people that have been susceptible to propaganda will attack you from both directions at the same time. Regardless of the topic/issue, this seems to be a good indicator that you’re closely aligned to fact rather than story.
Edit: I see my lagged and incoming downvotes are the aforementioned pro-xxxxx doing exactly as I said they do. As far as I’m concerned, it’s downvoting the opinion of accurate information distributed to allow critical assessment of individuals—since that’s obviously the opposite of propaganda. I’d be interested to know the opinion of why someone downvoted me since the topic is about propaganda. If it’s because you’re pro-Russia or pro-Ukraine, well, thank you for participating in proving the point. The confirmation would be good though as long as it doesn’t turn into an off-tipic debate around the War in Ukraine, which isn’t actually the topic here, just an example used of the thousands but chosen for it’s comminality and relevance right now
My big brain moment was when I realized that my interest in studying the conflict itself was the result of propaganda.
Haha. A positive side-effect. Do you have any good sources for people like me that care but have their energy spent elsewhere? I’m exhausted on climate, domestic racism, and equal opportunity. It doesn’t mean I don’t care about everything else, I just literally don’t have capacity to cover it all, and that’s what propaganda and bias agenda preys on.
Especially online, opinion is readily available. Information is becoming rarer.
You are one person and you can do only so much. If you aren’t directly affected by the war and you aren’t able to meaningfully change anything then why waste the energy?
If you really want to help people and make a difference, start with your local community. So many people tune in to listen to Ukrainian generals but they wont ever attend the council meetings in their own town.
I have personally seen cases where the whole town was saved all because one person was paying attention. You really do make a difference on that scale.
The most frustrating part about not being influenced by propaganda is that pro-Russia and pro-Ukraine people that have been susceptible to propaganda will attack you from both directions at the same time. Regardless of the topic/issue, this seems to be a good indicator that you’re closely aligned to fact rather than story.
Hi! I downvoted you because this paragraph is incredibly misguided. Firstly, you come right out and claim that you aren’t influenced by propaganda, which is a ludicrous thing to think—especially in the context of this post. Secondly, you make the classic enlightened centrist argument that if everyone thinks you’re wrong, you must have things figured out. That’s a fundamentally stupid position. Have a good one!
I feel like pro Ukraine propaganda and pro Russia propaganda is pretty easy to spot and ignore if you actually follow the events happening on the battlefield, and not what any major or semi major news outlets post.
How do you follow the events on the battlefield without checking the news outlets?
There is a big community of open source intelligence folks on Twitter. They accurately and verifiably geo locate all the photos and videos from any given day.
From that info you can get an idea of where the fighting is currently taking place, where Ukraine positions are and where Russians positions are. So you can see who is advancing, where, and by how much.
That’s the most accurate way I’ve found to be in the know about who’s currently doing better and who is currently doing worse.
I mean it is going in Ukraine’s direction. By all metrics they should’ve lost by now.