I see guys talking shit about how Neymar never won a ballon d’or, but we can say that his competition being ronaldo and Messi it was hard for him to achieve that goal, what’s ya’ll opinion?

  • AMessiLeonard@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    He definitely could have in 2016 if he maintained his form from the first half of the season. Him and Suarez were an amazing duo without Messi on the team

  • BupidStastard@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    He was never any better than Bale, Hazard, Robben etc. He was put on a pedestal because

    a) He was the emerging star of Brazil, the nation most synonymous with great footballers, and

    b) He played alongside Messi.

    • ImGoinGohan@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Woah there. I’m a chelsea fan and I’ll tell you right now he is NOT worse than hazard, nor was he worse than bale or Robben. Like in every single way he’s better than both of them.

      The way he manipulated the ball and the things he could do… Messi is the best dribbler I’ve ever watched but Neymar is a close second. You can’t even call Ney an aesthetics merchant either because he has better stats than all the guys you mentioned.

      He was an incredible footballer and in literally any other era of football he would have won 2 or 3 ballon d’ors. Just unlucky to be playing with Messi and Ronaldo.

  • No-Performance-2316@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Neymar never won the Ballon d’Or for the same reason that Iniesta never won it. When you play with Messi, you are never the best player on your team. Neymar was very good, certainly Ballon d’Or worthy, but going to PSG was what sealed the deal on him never winning the Ballon d’Or. If he didn’t and maybe went to a different club and won the ucl then maybe he could have won it, but that’s a hard maybe.

  • RJTG@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    We just don’t know. At Barca he looked like the real deal.

    But outside of Spanish and English League you need to have a perfect season to even be considered.

    Brasil and PSG always choking in the big games kind of prevented him from taking the next step.

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      1 year ago

      I wanna add, if he played how he did in barca and messi and ronaldo didnt exist, he would have one for sure by now.

  • Novel_Board_6813@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Several of his contemporaries were able to get 2nd or even 1st at the BOD, so I don’t think this is so much about the competition:

    Iniesta, Benzema, Modric, Mane, Van Dijk and Lewandowski are 6 guys that got closer than Neymar.

    Haaland is about to do the same (assuming he gets at least second this year).

  • Baheegovic_@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    No cause he is not a professional footballer. He played well for only 2 seasons. 2015/16. And 20-21. Beside those 2 years he just had a good separate moments with his bad attitude and long history of injury and nightlife. As a talent he would make it through the sky but he doesn’t have the commitment of leo and cris.

  • Toribio_the_redditor@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Neymar is just as good, if not better, than any “avarage” ballon d’or winner. But you know… Messi and CR7, you Just cannot do much against that.

    I mean, I think Neymar could have achieved a level much closer to them than he did, you can even argue He was at a higher level than them at some specific points (obviously Messi and Ronaldo primes are still higher, I’m talking about a specific point in time), but he never did, his carrer has been full of Injuries and inconsistencies, truly a shame.

    That said I think He is still not done!🙏🏽 I think He will still help a lot The Brazilian team and I hope He leave Saudi nest season, it’s hard for him to in the ballon d’or tho, but maybe not impossible? I think if Benzema won at 34 He can still do it. It will depend on the comoetition as well.