Hey guys,

Talking with many people and doing my own research I have come to this conclusion. For instance, I’ve read about player who went to the Premier League and were not called by any “Racially charged” nickname by their fellow players. Something had to go through on other leagues especially La Liga.

To me this is “Common Sense” and I don’t believe the “term of endearment” argument that some people put forth, usually closet racists. Since ethnic identification should be more of “private matter” and has nothing to do with football or work collegues or friends on the pitch. For instance,if I had a friend from a different ethnic group I don’t think it should be up to me to start giving him nicknames based on his ethnicity; To me that’s crossing the line.

I’ve also heard the Premier League fans at the stadium behave better than the La Liga. I seen videos of how Spaniards behave towards players from minority groups. They’ll shout all kinds of racial slurs. It seems to be a extremely hostile environment.

The three main objections that Spaniards and the Directors of Spanish Football put forth are:

1-Fatalism: Nothing can be done. Spanish Society is Racist, Football its Racist, The World is Racist. I’m not buying it if this was the case, then how are Brits able to do something about it?

2-Empathy towards the evil doer and not the victims: I’ve seen this with Spaniards but also with Argentinians. Like,‘Oh those poor working class people, they don’t know any better." If you start giving them fines you’ll be doing them a great harm since they don’t have much money’ I heard some Spaniards say, “Vinicius and other minority players are rich they need to get over it.”

3-It would be too expensive: Some people say that if they start implementing these reforms it would be too expensive and they would lose fans.

What do you guys think? How was the Premier League able to overcome these objections?

  • Javierinho23@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    It’s cultural my guy. You are writing this passing judgement over something you understand basically nothing about. The Spanish language itself is incredibly descriptive and people give nicknames based on appearance as a matter of habit. The UK and Spain are not the same at all nor are the languages and cultures.

    Race in general in Spanish speaking counties is just not close to being perceived as it is in the Anglo sphere. The history is different and therefore Latinos, and Spaniards alike don’t view it the same way as the people in the UK and US do.

    The problem is that you see something as “common sense” when it’s not. There are tons of factors that make the UK and Spain distinct culturally (language included) that you are not factoring into what the Spanish consider to be common sense. Therefore, the reason that the UK was able to stamp it out is because culturally they were more inclined to do so as of right now. The world IS racist and you really have to get out of this mindset that everyone thinks like the Brits do. They don’t for a myriad of different reasons. I’m not saying people shouldn’t be taught to do better, but talking down at people saying things should be “common sense” to them is just talking down at them and will solve nothing.

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      1 year ago

      the only “understanding” needed is to not hate other people because of their skin color. fuck whatever cultural norms spaniards have in that category.