• JGN67@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Won the league in multiple countries / continents? Won a domestic treble? Won an international trophy? 3 premier league manager of the month awards in a row.

      Emery has of course won the Europa league 4 times. But Ange has achieved plenty that Unai hasn’t.

      • I_always_rated_them@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Nothing that are of the equivalent that Emery has won. There’s loads of B level league managers with big trophy cabinets, great and they’ve done well for their level but they aren’t of the same value.

    • enjoy_your_lunch@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Ange has won 21 titles as a manager.

      Ange has qualified for and managed at a world cup and won an Asian cup.

      He delivered national silverware for the first time to Australia, with a dross side while under immense nationwide media scrutiny.

      People diminish his Celtic accomplishments and fail to highlight the mess at Celtic when Ange first came in. Celtic lost/sold 18 first team players, lost the long term CEO, Hired a new one before he also randomly left 2 months later. Lost the whole recruitment and scouting team and just finished the previous COVID season 25 points behind Rangers. Ange also got hired after the start of pre-season, rocked up by himself with no backroom team and went on to win a double against a strong rangers team that got to the Europa league final. He played some of the best football seen in the last 30 years of Celtic Park. People don’t remember how shit Lennon was in 2020/21. Ange had to rebuild Celtic against a Rangers team that finished unbeaten and 25 points clear.

      Ange has managed relegation sides into title winners within basically a season more than once for fun. And in salary capped leagues.

      His Jleague Yoko Marinos dominated possession against Pep’s city when they played… it’s absurd.

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        1 year ago

        Ange is a very good manager with a horrible record in Europe. You can’t blame that on having managed Celtic. Celtic are famously good in Europe. A much, much worse Rangers teams went to the Europa League finals, but Ange was exposed at that level repeatedly.

        Ange is an excellent manager, but he’s not proved himself at the top level yet. He has a good track record but hasn’t done anything in Europe or England yet so no, we can’t adjudge him to be same level as Emery or anybody who has won anything in England or Europe.

        Time will tell, but currently it’s not unreasonable to exclude him from the discussion.

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      1 year ago

      He says ‘mate’ a lot. Doesn’t quite work coming from someone with a Spanish accent.