So the Everton decision is only bad when compared to what will happen to City, which hasn’t happened yet?
I do think the decision is okay, granted that the rules were broken. I only hope that they maintain this when judging City, Chelsea, and any other club in the future.
These kinda decisions need to be made and backed. The sad part would be when certain clubs can get away with a slap on the wrist.
Honestly I think it’s still overly harsh considering the circumstances. It’d be one thing if they were just flaunting the rules.
But they got fucked by Covid like everybody else but then right as they were recovering there lost all investment from Usmanov due to the Russia Ukraine conflict.
Then they stayed on a strict spending plan in clear open communication with the league for the past 2 (3?) years where they were not allowed to buy players without selling to cover their cost in which time they made a net gain of 28M on transfers and stayed in the league.
They were already under strict transfer restrictions and I could even understand further punishment to uphold the rules but this is unfair. The past few years have been a struggle but they’ve done everything they’re supposed to and, if they had survived this season, looked like they might finally be on track to being okay again because of it.
But this is piss. Fucking arresting a homeless person for sleeping on the sidewalk type behaviour.
Why would anybody ever agree to comply with this investigation again? Looking at how it’s turned out for everybody else, it seems like Everton should’ve pumped up an even bigger bubble and spent even more so they wouldn’t have been in enough danger to get reasonably sued by the relegated clubs in the first place.
Honestly I think it’s still overly harsh considering the circumstances. It’d be one thing if they were just flaunting the rules.
But they were right, they were trying to declare overspend as COVID allowance. They fiddled the books to write it off and tried to hide the breach.
But they got fucked by Covid like everybody else but then right as they were recovering there lost all investment from Usmanov due to the Russia Ukraine conflict.
The Ukraine war isn’t a factor, they got fucked by COVID like everyone else but declared far higher COVID costs for no reason. They used COVID write offs to remove some of the bad debt from all those years of bad investments.
They did breach FFP, this happens to championship clubs all the time, we can’t allow different rules because it’s the Premier League.
And it won’t be a 10 point deduction, the sentence always gets halved on appeal, it will end up a 5 point deduction.
Yup, as a Wolves fan who are having an ok but limited season due in part to a quietish summer window because of FFP allowances, Everton just avoiding that whole need to be careful cos they didn’t feel like it isn’t really on.
The USM naming rights to the training ground was worth 30m alone and was ended due to the Ukrainian war. That right there was enough to put us under the 105m limit.
I mean chelsea admitted to a 100m whoopsie, shouldn’t they get a 50 point reduction? Not counting the fact the fa banned siggurdson (our record signing) then he was cleared of charges (so effectively costing us 50 mil for nothing), you think they’d let off 20 mil for a stadium
I do feel for Everton considering what’s happened with City and Chelsea, but I just hope that this is a benchmark now and that Chelsea and City will HAVE to face consequences because of this punishment.
I don’t know it that will be the case. Unless the super team of lawyers is rolled out again. But it seems that the entire footballing world wants city punished.
Comments here are going to age like milk when City inevitably get off with a slap on the wrist and Everton were in fact over-punished in comparison.
This is not about City, you utter loser. Its about Everton.
How much are you willing to stake on that opinion?
So the Everton decision is only bad when compared to what will happen to City, which hasn’t happened yet?
I do think the decision is okay, granted that the rules were broken. I only hope that they maintain this when judging City, Chelsea, and any other club in the future.
These kinda decisions need to be made and backed. The sad part would be when certain clubs can get away with a slap on the wrist.
Honestly I think it’s still overly harsh considering the circumstances. It’d be one thing if they were just flaunting the rules.
But they got fucked by Covid like everybody else but then right as they were recovering there lost all investment from Usmanov due to the Russia Ukraine conflict.
Then they stayed on a strict spending plan in clear open communication with the league for the past 2 (3?) years where they were not allowed to buy players without selling to cover their cost in which time they made a net gain of 28M on transfers and stayed in the league.
They were already under strict transfer restrictions and I could even understand further punishment to uphold the rules but this is unfair. The past few years have been a struggle but they’ve done everything they’re supposed to and, if they had survived this season, looked like they might finally be on track to being okay again because of it.
But this is piss. Fucking arresting a homeless person for sleeping on the sidewalk type behaviour.
Why would anybody ever agree to comply with this investigation again? Looking at how it’s turned out for everybody else, it seems like Everton should’ve pumped up an even bigger bubble and spent even more so they wouldn’t have been in enough danger to get reasonably sued by the relegated clubs in the first place.
But they were right, they were trying to declare overspend as COVID allowance. They fiddled the books to write it off and tried to hide the breach.
The Ukraine war isn’t a factor, they got fucked by COVID like everyone else but declared far higher COVID costs for no reason. They used COVID write offs to remove some of the bad debt from all those years of bad investments.
They did breach FFP, this happens to championship clubs all the time, we can’t allow different rules because it’s the Premier League.
And it won’t be a 10 point deduction, the sentence always gets halved on appeal, it will end up a 5 point deduction.
Yup, as a Wolves fan who are having an ok but limited season due in part to a quietish summer window because of FFP allowances, Everton just avoiding that whole need to be careful cos they didn’t feel like it isn’t really on.
Exactly, so many ppl casually forgetting the Marco Silva £100m+ gamble
Look at the net spend for the last 5 years. We have spent no money on players compared to you lot
The USM naming rights to the training ground was worth 30m alone and was ended due to the Ukrainian war. That right there was enough to put us under the 105m limit.
It’s only ok if City gets a big points reduction. Otherwise, this was bullshit
I mean chelsea admitted to a 100m whoopsie, shouldn’t they get a 50 point reduction? Not counting the fact the fa banned siggurdson (our record signing) then he was cleared of charges (so effectively costing us 50 mil for nothing), you think they’d let off 20 mil for a stadium
I do feel for Everton considering what’s happened with City and Chelsea, but I just hope that this is a benchmark now and that Chelsea and City will HAVE to face consequences because of this punishment.
Too little too late for the competing relegation teams for the previous two seasons.
Exactly. Unless City and Chelsea are relegated, all of these contrarian comments are going to age incredibly poorly.
That still doesn’t mean carragher isn’t a total hypocrite and hack who’s face looks like it’s aged like milk.
I don’t know it that will be the case. Unless the super team of lawyers is rolled out again. But it seems that the entire footballing world wants city punished.