• TimathanDuncan@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Players decline nobody ever denies that

    Casemrio was great 4 months ago so was Varane

    The difference is team doing bad so you say this, it’s not about age it’s more about team performance

    I just gave an example of Xhaka, do u think prime Xhaka was worse than 30 year old Xhaka? Or was it fans scapegoating due to club performances

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      1 year ago

      Prime Xhaka is now innit? He was mediocre for years and was a liability for a red card.

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          1 year ago

          According to TransferMarkt

          Xhaka - 14 (7 Straight Reds) Casemiro - 5 (2 Straight Reds)

          Across their whole careers.

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            1 year ago

            On one hand casemiro has gotten away with murder on the field without getting a card so many times in the other hand that may be a skill. Not really sure how to read these stats - feels like context makes it too nuanced.

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      1 year ago

      Xhaka has not declined yet. Nothing in my comment suggests that I think every player 30 or over has started to decline.

      • TimathanDuncan@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Your comment generalizes and says nothing of value

        Nobody has ever said what you are saying you are just overexaggaratting, when both Casemiro and Varane were signed people quesioned it including like Carragher etc

        Your point is awful, age matters yes but 3 months of bad performances doesn’t mean 31 year old player is shit and has declined, what would happen if he is good next season? Does age not matter or is it just shit overall team performance by basically everyone

    • GoatsinthemachinE@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      well xhaka also had other issues that caused him to try to do to much thus lose what he was/is good at look not as great.

      always liked him even through his bad spell ofc.

      didnt help that he was signed when wenger was still there then gone through a few different mangers with different styles.

      its prob the same at man u because different managers rate different /want different players or players that they want and not what they have as well.

      besides the fact that they are older ofc