The sub popped up in my feed a few months ago and all I really see here is people complaining (mainly about City, Newcastle, UAE, Saudi Arabia, and refs) and posting about conspiracies and conspiracy theories.
There’s very little in the way of moderate football discussion, and it feels like a circlejerk at times.
Has it always been this way? R/soccer has had its own challenges for a long time, but even there the proportion of interesting content tends to be higher.
I enjoy participating in subs like r/championship and r/theother14
I’m not a conspiracy theory guy but some conspiracies relating to the PGMOL seem to be more believable then them just being brain dead morons.
Think it’s fair for the fans and clubs to worry about these refs going to these countries that own clubs in England and reffing games. You’re telling me we shouldn’t at all be worried with refs reffing games in the UAE when the UAE owns City and has 115 charges hanging over them for financial cheating, that’s not at all concerning to anyone? I personally don’t think their bribing officials like some people think, but the issue is that it’s creating a narrative that’s being pushed.
Think many would agree the standard of reffing wasn’t great to begin with, but they bring in var to clean up the “clear and obvious” errors but somehow make it worse. At this point I’ve started to consider maybe it’s best to just get rid of var and going back to before. I can live with the ref on the field being wrong, my issue is when it goes to var and there’s half a dozen people in an office miles and miles away from the game and they have all the views and tech needed but still can’t get the call right.
Having a conspiracy theory be slightly more believable than the more batshit crazy ones doesn’t make it any more likely to be true or give it any substance. A complete and utter lack of any supporting evidence for any of the conspiracies thrown around gives them all zero credibility.
Mostly true.
But they did mention officials doing games in the UAE. There is evidence for that. It should be a conflict of interest (most industries have rules against much lesser potential conflicts than that)
Not denying they’ve reffed in the UAE, The fa and premier league have sanctioned it and declared it fine. There’s absolutely nothing out there for anybody to believe it isn’t yet we get mental suggests suggesting otherwise. Literal definition of a conspiracy theory.
Surely the conspiracy theory is from the bodies saying it’s fine when logically it shouldn’t be? There are match officials with money in their account from the same source as the owners of Man City.
Or do you think the FA and Premier League are like the Pope and infallible?
So presume foul play despite nothing to support it? Another apt description of a conspiracy theory.
I didn’t say there was foul play.
That’s not how conflict of interest works. Most industries have regulations to remove instances where there could even be the hint of suggestion of a conflict of interest. Even small shit. My last job used to get free gifts like slow cookers and bottles of wine from clients. Had to raffle em off to avoid any perceived conflict of interest.
Conflict of interest rules shouldn’t have to wait for foul play. They should intervene in these situations so it can’t even be suggested to be happening.
Supporting evidence? You can see the PGMOL officials in Saudi or in the UAE reffing games. There’s evidence of that. While the UAE own City there shouldn’t any PGMOL refs reffing games there. It’s not about concrete evidence it’s about removing any level of doubt that something fishy can be going on
There is no doubt to be had, there’s literally nothing in reality to suggest any problem, it’s purely fuelled by wild conspiracies.
You don’t see the conflict of interest whatsoever about the refs reffing in a country where the state owns a team in the league that these regularly ref in? Wish I had as much confidence in the world as you do