So hear me out, the current top 10 clubs in the Premier League should be considered a “big 10”. So the general rule for a club to be considered a part of “big x” they have to be:

  1. Big club - a big fanbase and history
  2. Financial strength - ability to spend a lot to buy playera
  3. Pull factor - playera wanting to join the club just becuse of the club name
  4. Consistent success

Now there is no doubt why the “big 6” is part of this “big 10”.

Now Aston Villa, Newcastle are big clubs, spend a lot, pull players from big clubs from other leagues and have had consistent good results in last 2 season.

West Ham is a big club, with consistent results (apart from last season). However, they have less pull factor and less financial strength from clubs listed above. But, I believe that their ability is in these categories is still better than bottom 10 clubs so that’s why they should still be considered part of “big 10”.

Brighton is the only highly questionable. They have results and relative financial strength. However, they have almost no pull factor and aren’t a big club. But if their results continue to be good they will start to become a big club and gain a pull factor.

That’s why I believe Arsenal, Liverpool, City, Tottenham, Spurs, United, Newcastle, Aston Villa, Brighton and West Ham are part of “Big 10”. What do you think?

  • Ceejayncl@alien.topBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    You know nothing of the history of English football if you didn’t already regard Newcastle, Villa, and West Ham as big clubs.

      • Ceejayncl@alien.topBEnglish
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        11 months ago

        The argument for West Ham is that the have a monopoly of fans from East London, through Essex They undoubtably have a large following and culture about them that all of the U.K. is aware of.

      • Rooster-Lifter23@alien.topBEnglish
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        11 months ago

        Stupid statement really, West ham Won a world cup, multiple European trophies and Had Mark noble play for them and Have Bubbles the Bear run down the half way line every match game day. Out of all the clubs listed how many have had that? Yeah didn’t think so…

  • OkReporter3886@alien.topBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    I dont understand the constant need to classify teams, especially when it’s literally half the league. I already find the big 6 pretty stupid, and we’re apparently part of it.

  • ChiliVerTe@alien.topBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Man just outed Chelsea because of two shit seasons and kept united in big 10, also mentioned Spurs twice with no titles ever

  • El_mamut8@alien.topBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Talking absolute shite lol. Theres only a big 4. City, Liverpool and Arsenal the inly clubs that can actually compete for trophies. I’ll include United just because of their marketing size and ability to still pull elite level players. Spurs and all those other clubs you mentioned have money but do fuck all except over pay for players that at best are good.

    • mj979@alien.topBEnglish
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      11 months ago

      What a load of bs, when’s the last time arsenal competed for a trophy if you exclude the current and the previous season?

      • El_mamut8@alien.topBEnglish
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        11 months ago

        You cant exclude arsenal if the debate is for current lmao. Believe me I think arsenal are pish too but if its a debate about “current” big teams you have to include the current seasons

      • ChrisMartins001@alien.topBEnglish
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        11 months ago

        When’s the last time City competed for a trophy if you exclude the previous ten seasons? Or United if you exclude all of the 90’s and 2000’s?

  • TheWawa_24@alien.topBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Its still the big 6. no one outside of the big 6 (besides newcastle) spends a 50 million plus transfer fee on a player. Wolves and everton got close but no one outside of the t6 and newcastle spends over 50 mill on one player

    • Stravven@alien.topBEnglish
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      11 months ago

      Didn’t Villa pay something like 50 million for Diaby? And how much did Wolves pay for Cunha? Or West Ham for Haller? Or Everton for Gylfi?

  • TommySki7@alien.topBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Personally, I don’t feel the need to classify teams, I think even the Big 6 is a pointless thing.

  • UPTHERAR@alien.topBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Having Brighton and west ham being in the same bracket as City and Liverpool is wild

    • The_Billyest_Billy@alien.topBEnglish
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      11 months ago

      There was a time in the not too distant past where having Man City in any of these lists would have been absurd.

      West Ham had the 15th highest revenue in the world in 21-22 (above AC Milan and Newcastle), so it’s not really that wild.

  • TexehCtpaxa@alien.topBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    So much preoccupation with size, trying to redefine and classify what’s big and what isn’t. As long as it does the job it doesn’t matter how big yours or anyone else’s club is.

  • Kapika96@alien.topBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    What makes a team like Brighton or West Ham so much bigger than teams like Wolves, Palace or Forest?

    The whole ″big x″ idea is silly and outdated. Just let it die.

    • Mr-Niceguy9@alien.topBEnglish
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      11 months ago

      Well mainly because palace have never won anything? Brighton havent? And forest havent been in the EPL for such a long time.

      Although i like forest and the team they need time like to really establish themselves come back in ten years mayeb

  • UnfazedPheasant@alien.topBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    “Brighton have no pull factor” oi we have barcelonas number 10 on loan this season

    But realistically yeah it’s just a big 6. Newcastle might shove themselves in there (they should given their financial power). Villa, Brighton, Brentford, West Ham etc will all the fall away in the same way Southampton and Wolves did, it’s just football. Maybe not to the degree of dropping out the league or anything but managers come and go and that usually coincides with a stumble.

    • FuzzyOpportunity2766@alien.topBEnglish
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      11 months ago

      Yes and Brighton can’t even stock enough merchandise, coming up Christmas and you can not even get a home shirt from the club shop!!! where would you find that happening in the top six club?

  • robokarizma0308@alien.topBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    9 of which will end up losing the league title and have to start again next season with 0 points. There is only the 1st which matters.