Thierry Henry, Clint Dempsey and Charlie Davies discussing perception of American players in Europe

Read that a few years ago. Now, I’ve only been following football since '07 which is around the time time Dempsey made his move to Fulham. He was a thrill to watch and I’d reckon he def helped change some opinions around US players at the time with the likes of Pulisic or McKennie continuing to this day.

But just curious for a discussion, how prevalent are the stereotypes of US players today? Is it simply just banter or are there still managers who just don’t rate US players all that much.

  • ___HeyGFY___@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Football has always had a limited fanbase in the US because of competition with baseball, basketball, hockey, and American football. As far as high school sports are concerned, it’s on par with volleyball and tennis and lacrosse and field hockey.

    There will always be a perceived gap between European football and American (soccer). We don’t have professional sponsorship of youth clubs or academies dedicated to training players. We don’t have a nationally organized youth program. We are not set up on the top level to be capable of promotion/relegation. American born players don’t necessarily get worldwide exposure because our culture doesn’t promote the game as much as it could.

    Now, don’t misunderstand me. Fans of soccer in the US are passionate. Rivalries are intense. But the general opinion of the American game is that we do it wrong. That stigma sometimes makes it difficult for a player with dual citizenship to choose the USMNT.

  • samthehumanoid@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Just can’t see them producing a top, top player as other sports are too popular there. Always groan when people say “if they just focused on ___ they’d be the best in the world” when it comes to US, China etc because it’s not that simple

    All the infrastructure in the world won’t make kids want to play football, there’s more money in other sports in America and importantly they have no idols like the big footballing countries. Smaller places with less infrastructure like Uruguay will produce more top talents purely because football is part of their history and culture, they have legends to look up to and a reputation too - until US somehow gets that in football they will hit a ceiling no matter how much money they invest imo

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    11 months ago

    I am a USSF coach- and I can firmly say how surprised I was to see the USSF revamp their youth ways - to emulate Europe.

    We no longer focus on “do 29 laps and sprint everywhere”… no more “boot it up field and hope”

    It’s “how well can you manage the ball under pressure” … “how well can you as a team technically play”…

    There’s a huge change. It’s just began recently and hopefully in years to come it will produce talent.

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    11 months ago

    You would think with the American fan base there would be a bias to play Americans more. I don’t think there’s prejudice against them, they’re just not that good.

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    11 months ago

    Pulisic and Mckennie have done nothing to make anybody have a positive opinion on them in premier league. Aaronson as well. Robinson looks solid though. And Ream seems to have gotten good in his twilight years

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    There’s stereotypes in the media for sure. Hard to say if there’s any active stereotypes or prejudice against US players in the management and coaching world since most people are not in it.

    However, you have to think that if you’re good enough then you’ll play. Every player, regardless of nationality, has to fight for their place and the US just don’t produce world class players for the very top level.

  • StrongStyleDragon@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Banter mostly. I will say Pulisic kinda didn’t do Americans any favors when he was critical of Tucel and all his father drama and the book he wrote.

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    I’d say Americans are still very much not considered good technical players. With the exception maybe of Reyna at Dortmund, the best American players are very much good at elements of the game involving, pace, physicality and aggression rather than what to do with the ball at their feet

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      11 months ago

      It’s all due to the lack of play time during early childhood. Street football is nonexistent here.

  • ITSYOURBOYTUNA@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Rory Jennings or whatever his name is thinks Pulisic is shit, despite Pulisic pulling chelsea through both legs against real madrid in their UCL winning season…

    So id say yea. Or he’s gaslighting.