From the article, “The GOP has a long history of using the Green Party as a tool to siphon votes that might go to Democrats and of playing a spoiler role in our two-party, winner-take-all electoral system. And the Green Party leadership has opportunistically embraced the support, playing the role of what some describe as ‘useful idiots.’ […] In 2016, Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein garnered 30,000 votes in Wisconsin; Trump won the state by 23,000 votes.”
There’s an entirely other way of reading that data, which is to say that Hillary could have picked up 30,000 more votes in Wisconsin if she had been a better candidate and run a better campaign.
that piece is the opinion of John Bachtell. he provides no proof for his claim that the concept of spoilers is even valid. he repeats dnc talking points.
I didn’t either–I voted Green–but the state I lived in at the time went solidly for Clinton. I didn’t like her then, I don’t like her now, but if I’d lived in a state where it would have been even remotely close, I would have voted for her rather than Trump.
I disagree with Clinton’s politics. I disagree with Trump’s existence.
I didn’t either–I voted Green–but the state I lived in at the time went solidly for Clinton.
i voted for jill stein, too, and my state went to trump. i didn’t want him to win. i also didn’t want clinton to win. that’s why i didn’t vote for either of them.
jill stein wasn’t a spoiler: she was the candidate i wanted to win.
citation needed.
Here’s a source for you. Note that People’s World is a socialist new organization.
From the article, “The GOP has a long history of using the Green Party as a tool to siphon votes that might go to Democrats and of playing a spoiler role in our two-party, winner-take-all electoral system. And the Green Party leadership has opportunistically embraced the support, playing the role of what some describe as ‘useful idiots.’ […] In 2016, Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein garnered 30,000 votes in Wisconsin; Trump won the state by 23,000 votes.”
There’s an entirely other way of reading that data, which is to say that Hillary could have picked up 30,000 more votes in Wisconsin if she had been a better candidate and run a better campaign.
I was asked for a source, I provided one.
that piece is the opinion of John Bachtell. he provides no proof for his claim that the concept of spoilers is even valid. he repeats dnc talking points.
this does not prove that i would have voted for hilary clinton in 2016. because i wouldn’t have.
I didn’t either–I voted Green–but the state I lived in at the time went solidly for Clinton. I didn’t like her then, I don’t like her now, but if I’d lived in a state where it would have been even remotely close, I would have voted for her rather than Trump.
I disagree with Clinton’s politics. I disagree with Trump’s existence.
i voted for jill stein, too, and my state went to trump. i didn’t want him to win. i also didn’t want clinton to win. that’s why i didn’t vote for either of them.
jill stein wasn’t a spoiler: she was the candidate i wanted to win.
i disagree with both their politics.