• chitak166@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    It’s tough because a lot of these people don’t really have a choice unless they want to be alone.

    Either their talked down on by liberals, or taken advantage of by conservatives.

    I think the solution would be for liberals to be kinder and more compassionate to people like this because they clearly don’t know any better! I don’t think most of you can do it though because you’re not actually good people.

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      11 months ago

      This reads as very out of touch. I grew up with conservatives and am now very liberal. I am not an asshole to them but they will find anyway they can to be assholes to me. Questioning everything about me. My faith, my friends, my diet, my lifestyle, everything. They get mad when I don’t laugh at their gay joke. They get mad when I choose not to eat meat. They get mad when I choose to walk instead of drive somewhere. I’ve never spoken a word of judgement but they take my lifestyle choices as judgment of them and create strawmen in their heads that I am criticising everything they do. These are not ‘good people’. These are people that actively support a self professed aspiring dictator. They take me not eating meat as talking down to them and are willing to retaliate with fascism - this isn’t rational decision making. We need to dismantle corporate run media and the role of money in politics. Stop blaming people that are making good decisions for the problems creates by those making bad ones

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      11 months ago

      Lol what? “Be kinder to the fascists” has been tried already. It’s called “appeasement.”

      Take a guess how that worked out.

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      11 months ago

      If you don’t want to be talked down to. Stop acting like you need to be. It’s not “liberal” boogymen doing this. It’s sane people. And if you behave sane or ask for help, they’ll compassionately extend a helping hand. Every time.

      But this is the problem with people who victimize themselves. They created the problem themselves and they don’t want to solve it because it means undoing what they’ve done. Or admitting that they were wrong. So they simply double down and nowadays find other insane people who will confirm their reality defying beliefs. Mistaking ignorant confirmation bias for compassion.

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      You think the solution is for the people who already want equality for all to somehow become even kinder? Being liberal is already the logical consequence of basic kindness. Kindness results in altruism, which results in social awareness and liberal activism.

      This conservative assumption that everyone showing altruism must be a false actor is indicative of some significant mental illness.

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        11 months ago

        “You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.” I’ve witnessed this first-hand.

        The vast majority of liberals are tribalists just like conservatives. They don’t care to help others, just themselves and their tribe.

        I’m not going to argue anymore on this, because then I would be here forever.

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          I have to wonder what your definition of “liberal” is. Because if we’re talking about progressives, the entire ideology is based on helping others. Even center-left politicians do things to help others.

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          They don’t care to help others, just themselves and their tribe.

          It is clear from this that (1) you don’t know any liberals, and (2) you fail at basic logical deductions. All you have to do to know whether liberals are altruistic or not is look at their policies. You’d see helping people all over them… but that would require you to open your eyes.

          I’m not going to argue anymore on this, because then I would be here forever.

          And this is what’s holding you back. You’ve made a decision to be part of the problem.