• CM400@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Pizza Hut made over $6 billion last year, you’d think they could afford to pay their drivers.

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      10 months ago

      Of course the can pay their drivers but think of the poor shareholders who may see 0.1% less profit or the CEO who may get only 99% of their usual bonus. Oh the horror!!

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        The Pizza Hut corporation will be fine. These are franchises we are talking about. The franchises pay an initial fee of $25k and then 6% + 4.75% sales/marketing fees to Pizza Hut.

        It’s the owners of the franchises that are responsible for fucking over their employees. While Pizza Hut could reduce their fees, they won’t. Franchise owners could increase pay, but they won’t. It’s more likely that the franchise owners will offload deliveries to Uber and Door Dash and not have to worry about managing drivers anymore.

        The entire model sucks, so I am not blaming franchise owners over the corporation. They are both at fault for relying on the extortion of teenagers or other people who don’t have extremely profitable job skills.

        https://franchise.pizzahut.com/faqs/

        Edit: Also, these aren’t one-off mom and pop franchise owners anymore. These are franchise owning conglomerates that likely have more negotiable franchise fees.

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          Won’t offloading the delivery to those services cost even more? They take a pretty hefty cut of the sale. Last I heard it was around 30% of an order.

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            At least where I live, delivery food is extremely expensive for that reason. Restaurants have two prices: one for walk-ins and the other for delivery that they show on the apps. The restaurant business (especially for independent owners) has cutthroat margins already so the customer is always going to pay the fees, one way or another.

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            They just offload it on consumers by raising the price of the food and the ever present tip feature.

            So done with post Covid timeline here.

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            They will likely make a deal with a delivery company, as they should. It is inefficient for every restaurant to have delivery drivers.

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      10 months ago

      Technically it’s mega franchisees like Provender Capital Group’s “PacSun Pizza,” not PizzaHut that is going to be pocketing the cash from this move.

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      It’s all about maximizing profit.

      Expending the least, while taking in the most.

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      It’s staggering how many people don’t understand the difference between franchises and corporations on wall street in the internet age

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        It’s staggering how many people assume things without looking into them. In this case, it’s a corporation called Pac Pizza, LLC and makes over $25 million per year that’s doing the layoffs. I think they can pay their delivery drivers an extra $4 (according to the USA Today article linked above) per hour.

        If they had to pay all of their less than 500 employees (according to the Zoominfo page linked above) the extra $4 per hour, and they all worked full time, 40-hour weeks all year, the company would have to pay just over $4 million in extra wages.

        Assuming the franchises make the low end of the estimated revenue linked above, $4.5 million would be 16% of the total. Increasing prices by 16% to cover that cost is far less than the approximately 40% customers end up paying when using third-party delivery services.

        All in all, this sure seems like the franchise corporation (probably in cahoots with Pizza Hut proper) is just using these delivery jobs as a political stunt in opposition of the mandated wage increase.

        Here’s the takeaway, though. Any employer, including but not limited to mom-and-pop businesses, that can’t afford to pay its employees a living wage should not be in business.

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        It’s staggering how many people assume things without looking into them. In this case, it’s a corporation called Pac Pizza, LLC and makes over $25 million per year that’s doing the layoffs. I think they can pay their delivery drivers an extra $4 (according to the USA Today article linked above) per hour.

        If they had to pay all of their less than 500 employees (according to the Zoominfo page linked above) the extra $4 per hour, and they all worked full time, 40-hour weeks all year, the company would have to pay just over $4 million in extra wages.

        Assuming the franchises make the low end of the estimated revenue linked above, $4.5 million would be 16% of the total. Increasing prices by 16% to cover that cost is far less than the approximately 40% customers end up paying when using third-party delivery services.

        All in all, this sure seems like the franchise corporation (probably in cahoots with Pizza Hut proper) is just using these delivery jobs as a political stunt in opposition of the mandated wage increase.

        Here’s the takeaway, though. Any employer, including but not limited to mom-and-pop businesses, that can’t afford to pay its employees a living wage should not be in business.

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      There’s 19,000 pizza huts, but most all of them are franchises. It’s not “pizza hut” firing drivers over this. It’s franchise owners. Also, if you were to do some napkin math, 19,000 (I know. Just california, but that would hardly be fair to everyone else) pizza huts needing say…5 drivers each at 40 hours a week paid 20 means a cost of about 28 after insurance and such… that’d be 95 thousand drivers…$106,400,000 a week…$5,532,800,000 a year.

      Shit gets expensive.

      But face it. Delivery drivers make a lot in tips. People have been willing to do it using their own vehicles for decades while they make super low minimum wages. Making $20/ hour plus the tips will have the delivery guy out doing everyone else at the restaurant, which means their pay will have to go to like $35/hour which means a stupid pizza is gonna cost $30. Let uber eats handle the deliveries.

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        $20/hour is only part of employee compensation. It does not include benefits or taxes. Your employer pays a lot of taxes on your behalf.

        Don’t even get me started on the money and time taken to recruit, hire, and train new employees.

        Don’t misunderstand me. I support a higher minimum wage. I am a firm believer that minimum wage should be $25/hour and increases should be tied to inflation.

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          Your employer pays a lot of taxes on your behalf.

          That’s money they would have paid you anyway, and you would have to pay in taxes. Your employer is not out any extra cash, they’re just saving you the trouble.

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          Don’t even get me started on the money and time taken to recruit, hire, and train new employees.

          For delivery drivers?

          Know how to drive? If not, next. Here’s the pizza. Put it on a flat surface in the vehicle, don’t throw or flip it. Use Google maps to get to the house. Hand it to the customer. Come back. Done.

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        10 months ago

        Delivery guys should always outdo nearly everyone else at pizza joint, you seem to lack a necessary depth of knowledge and experience to make your conclusions.