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i think they bet it all on overwhelming air superiority and terrorbombing campaigns against much weaker enemies, and they still lost every fucking war.
this emphasis on quality is just empty nazi rhetoric.
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i mean, the longer ww2 went on, the more the nazis wanked about superior technology and shit, while the war kept getting worse and worse for them. they had their best successes with their well tested, relatively simple, easy to repair/manufacture early war tanks.
and then what equipment actually won the war? well tested, mass produced, easy to repair shermans and t34s. these were tanks where the designers actually cared how big bridges are, and how heavy a tank can be if it still wants to be able to cross bridges. or how fast you can swap a busted transmission in a muddy field. or or or.
and now NATO is continuing the great tradition of nazi wunderwaffe worship.
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I mean, after WW2 a lot of those Nazis got cushy jobs in NATO and other US-controlled organizations. AFAIK they appointed one as General Secretary right after the war. Not to mention - operation Gladio and operation Paperclip is a thing.
they bet it all on quality over quantity over the preceding decades
Have they? Used to think the same, but recently I’m starting to suspect it is a part of the mythology surrounding NATO and USA specifically.
Yeah, tbh i’m not seeing the vaunted “quality” of NATO gear in Ukraine…
that’s because the slavic brainpan cannot handle the superior elvi- uh I mean, WESTERN weaponry
Namely, the quality they most strive for is “expensive”
quite and admission, they kept making fun or Russian army for two years, but all of a sudden it’s not clear that US army could take on it
Perhaps an attacker with U.S.-level skills and training could have broken through, as those who emphasize training or operational decision-making tend to imply. But a large advantage in skill and motivation is needed to breach defenses like these. Ukraine did not enjoy this in 2023, and it is unclear whether even American troops would have the skill differential sufficient for a task this difficult.
What the US has, though, is vassal states. It’s sent Ukrainians to their deaths and would have no qualms with sending kids from the next state across through the mine fields until they were depleted. Then US soldiers would walk across the bodies and loudly proclaim their superiority, ‘What was all the fuss about, this is easy for a Yankee.’
I think that’s exactly how US looks at the situation. The two practical problems here are that people in these vassal states are starting to get rowdy as evidence by all the rioting happening in Europe, and the industrial capacity is lacking for sustaining the conflict at the current levels. US simply isn’t able to produce enough ammunition to keep up with Russia. On top of that, US is now looking like it’s gonna be mired in a big war in the Middle East. I expect this is going to be a debacle of biblical proportions.
Defense in depth stopped the Nazis at Kursk too.
nazis never learn
“It’s gonna work this time!”
Has Ukraine ever had “momentum” throughout the entirely of this war?
They managed to regain a bunch of territory early in 2022 because Russia lacked troops to defend it and sensibly chose to pull back. This became the basis for a lot of the mythology around Ukraine’s ability to push Russia back. This likely greatly contributed to the inflated expectations for the summer offensive last year. The west expected that Russia would just give up territory without much of a fight again, then they’d back Russia in a corner and force negotiations on western terms.
Minefields, there are minefields all the way down.
One of the most hilarious videos from this summer was when Ukrainians were being trained by the Germans and they asked what to do about minefields, and Germans was like oh you just drive around them. 😂