• TheEmpireStrikesDak@thelemmy.club
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    74
    ·
    edit-2
    9 months ago

    Why are union subs so high in the US? As a part time worker I pay under a tenner a month, but even as a full time worker, I’d be paying £16.

    • madcaesar@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      113
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      9 months ago

      Because here they have to fight constantly and legal battles are expensive as shit in the US.

    • Monkey With A Shell@lemmy.socdojo.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      36
      ·
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      Last I was in one it wasn’t nearly that much, but that was a couple decades back. My best guess is that so many places try to kill the unions by passing ‘right to work’ laws where people are not obligated to join even in a union voted shop. It makes it pretty tough to force a good deal when only a fraction of the workers are in and paying while they probably live in an area where people aren’t concerned about working across a line.

      • tech@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        17
        ·
        edit-2
        9 months ago

        Woah, a correct reference to “right to work” state. Nice!

        I can also attest to the higher dues because of RTW policies. I was once in a union that included all the restaurant service workers at an American airport. The servers and bartenders made excellent money and it was a viable career, thus the union made sense.

        But, our union also included the food court workers, who were generally younger and didn’t view their job as a career. Most of them opted out of paying dues as health care and future raises weren’t their concern.

        There was also the issue of the servers paychecks being too low to pay dues as well. Since taxes had to be paid on credit card tips, our checks were often $0 so we had to manually pay dues. That never happened though…

      • TheEmpireStrikesDak@thelemmy.club
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        9 months ago

        Getting a workplace unionised is an uphill battle here too. Unless your company already has an officially recognised union, no one wants to join. I tell them it’s £9.65 a month and they’re like, yeah forget it.

        What bothers me about where I work is as a bike technician, we actually have the same job title and pay as the till staff who do no skilled work at all. And on top of that, we also have to cover for them (for instance, even though I work in the bike section, I was forced to do car seat training even though the auto section till staff should be the ones doing it). So we’re doing skilled work, plus their work and we get the same pay. But no one is interested. They’ll grumble and groan, but actually doing something about it is too much to ask.

        • Monkey With A Shell@lemmy.socdojo.com
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          9 months ago

          Getting that critical mass is the big hurdle as I see it. People are afraid to show outward support for mass action if the perceived mass is only you and Bill from accounting. There’s the risk that if you start making noise, regardless of whatever laws might protect organizing, the company tosses you for ‘other reasons’.

          I worked in a place for about 6.5 years that towards the end started hemorrhaging workers to the tune of about 1/3 the staff over a summer. Having grown up in a union household I gave some smoke break talks about how we could start one. Eventually without traction there I put together a local area study of similar work and brought that in to the VP in charge and after it went up their chain everyone in the place got around a 15-20% raise. Then about 6 months later I was dismissed for ‘poor performance’ after 6 years in the same role. 🤔