I don’t get it. Her music is sometimes catchy but otherwise unremarkable, from the songs I’ve heard. How does she break all these records and accumulate so much fame and wealth?

She’s pretty, but a lot of singer songwriters are, especially those with makeup and costume people, a support staff.

Is there something else to her that people like?

I’m confused about what makes her so apparently unique or phenomenal.

Update: there are so many things that make swift unique or phenomenal.

I’ve received tons of great answers from people that have helped me understand, like piecing together a jigsaw puzzle, many factors that makes swift different and consequently more successful than her peers.

Clever lyrics, top-tier production, sharing autobiographical and emotional points in her life very directly, apparent honesty with few or no public blemishes, creating a community of fans through Easter eggs and house parties and unconventional, but always personal methods, an early start supported by wealthy parents, she keeps winning against abusers, and her music itself is popular and fun.

Those are just a few of the puzzle pieces contributed here, and a dive into this post is a pretty good explanation of many of the factors that must be contributing to her phenomenal success and recognition, that set her apart from other pop stars, even pop stars who were phenoms in their own right.

This is a very educational post, thank you to everyone who has contributed.

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    How do you think she compares to Britney Spears, Madonna, or Beyonce? Like, Taylor Swift has become a pop star. You don’t have to love her music to see she has wide appeal. I don’t really like Madonna but you listen to a song and you are like “yeah I can see why people have danced to this for thirty years”

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      I feel like with Madonna or beyoncé, either of them are more unique and have more staying power.

      I’m not a big pop head, but I can sing a bunch of their singles and I can’t think of a Taylor Swift song except I think the never going to get back together one?

      Maybe I’m just perceiving Taylor Swift is more successful and wealthy than all of these other pop stars?

      I should probably go look at the numbers to see if the perception she projects is as insanely successful as it seems to me

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        Why would you think anyone has more staying power than Taylor Swift? At 34 years old she has been in the music industry for 19 years and she’s only growing in popularity. She topped the Country charts for 24 weeks with her debut album at age 17.

        Sure, we won’t be able to compare her to Madonna for another 30 years or so, but I don’t exactly see a reason to question her staying power.

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          Because many other artists created a movement that it seems like Taylor Swift waded into and perpetuated without contributing something significantly new.

          I’m interested in your " we won’t be able to compare her to Madonna for another 30 years", are you agreeing that Swift doesn’t have the sort of staying power that Madonna or other pop stars have achieved?

          If so, why has she received so many more awards than anybody else? So many.

          I might not understand what you mean by this comment:

          “Sure, we won’t be able to compare her to Madonna for another 30 years or so, but I don’t exactly see a reason to question her staying power.”

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            I just think it’s easy to assess Madonna’s staying power because she’s still around and somewhat relevant, even though she had her biggest hit 40 years ago. It’s not easy to say right now who will be remembered and who will be forgotten in 30 years.

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              I hear people say that all the time, but Madonna was a pretty radical figure, and so was Michael Jackson and the Beatles, who people keep bringing up?

              They were all pioneers of a very clear movement or another, whereas Taylor Swift is just a pop star who sings about relationships and breakups in the middle of a line of pop stars who sing about relationships and breakups?

              Well, but I don’t fully understand the amount of award she’s received because she sings well, when there are other artists who sing as well.

              I do think that all of your comments are helping bring me closer to a complete picture though, or at least as complete a picture as we can get so early into her career.

              Thanks

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      Okay, yeah so I think it’s the awards that I don’t really understand, since she doesn’t seem that unique to me compared to Ellis, Madonna or beyoncé, but she has the most awards out of them and far more awards than many other pop"stars", like a pretty crazy amount more.

      Swift has 81 awards

      Beyonce has 96, 31 of which are BET awards, which I do think is significant in this specific list since obviously Taylor Swift isn’t competing in that category.

      But then let’s get to other pop stars.

      Lady Gaga has 35 awards? The f*** like I can sing tons of her songs.

      Adele has 40? Adele. Adele? Taylor Swift has twice as many awards as Adele?

      Rihanna has 49 including her 19 BET awards

      Billy eyelash like I don’t know whatever, after that it’s all like a dozen awards or a couple dozen each.

      Taylor has 81 awards, even without any BET awards?

      How does Taylor Swift have twice as many awards as Lady Gaga or other similarly huge artists?

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        Because they’re not similarly huge.

        Taylor Swift is dating Travis Kelce, and the fact that she’s going to be watching (not performing) the Super Bowl is going to add a huge number of eyeballs. To the biggest event in the country.

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        Lady Gaga has 35 awards? The f*** like I can sing tons of her songs.

        Lady Gaga has also put out five studio albums, Taylor Swift ten.

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          I think that furthers my point if a casual listener remembers several Lady Gaga songs but very few(one) of an artist who has twice as many albums?

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            Or a top artist having ~twice as many albums explains having ~twice as my awards as some other top artist.

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              Madonna has 14 albums, Taylor Swift has 10 albums, but Swift has received almost twice as many awards in her career so far.