• sirjash@feddit.de
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    8 months ago

    There is literally no other reasonable option than Biden, thanks to FPTP. Voting for Trump is voting for a fascist, every other “option” is throwing your vote away.

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      8 months ago

      There is literally no other reasonable option than Biden

      Biden is not a reasonable option. Biden is merely the least horrifically unreasonable. The Democratic Party’s ambitions extend no further and never will.

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        8 months ago

        They used to, and they can again. A party is not a person or even a group of people. Let that silly anthropomorphism go. A party is a tool, a lever of power. Don’t like the people who control it? Great! Neither do I. Let’s take it from them.

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          8 months ago

          Ask Jessica Cisneros what happens when you try.

          The party fights progressives and capitulates to Republicans.

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            8 months ago

            The people who control the party fight progressives and capitulate to Republicans. Of course the people who control the party are going to fight us to keep control of it. It remains the only viable tool to win in general elections. Blaming “the party” is like being on a losing football team and blaming the ball.

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              8 months ago

              The people who control the party fight progressives and capitulate to Republicans. Of course the people who control the party are going to fight us to keep control of it. It remains the only viable tool to win in general elections. Blaming “the party” is like being on a losing football team and blaming the ball.

              “The party” is shorthand for those who control it.

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                8 months ago

                OK, but it’s an important distinction, when you say:

                The Democratic Party’s ambitions extend no further and never will.

                If, in that context, you mean the people who control the party, that’s fine, you are correct, but other people are likely to hear that there is no hope of ever changing the direction of the party apparatus itself. We can see from the Republican party that it’s not impossible to seize control of a major party - Trump and his maga cult did it. Bernie almost did, twice. We can take the reigns and steer the party where we want to go.