For example, Mystique being transgender and Morph being non-binary.

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    Did you not watch the 2000’s X-Men movies that were thinly veiled gay rights discussions?

    Or the original comics which were anti-religious persecution comics?

    Or the entire history of X-Men being treated like minorities targeted by conservative society and pulpit bangers?

    It’s literally the core of the comic.

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      It really isn’t about conservative society. It’s about society in general. Stan lee was against intolerance which isn’t tied to any political platform.

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        intolerance which isn’t tied to any political platform.

        Except for the GOP platform. Being anti gay, anti trans, etc is all wrapped up in it.

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              That document seems to be corrupted. All I see is they want marriage to be defined as a man and a woman. I can’t copy and paste out of it for some reason, and I can’t even open it in a browser.

              Is that your earth-shattering evidence? That is from 2016, but it is the current platform. I suspect that will change as people really don’t care anymore.

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                they want marriage to be defined as a man and a woman

                Exactly.

                Is that your earth-shattering evidence?

                It crossed my mind to link more, but I knew you wouldn’t even be able to handle this one. Best to stick to one at a time, lest you ignore the rest as you often do.

                That is from 2016, but it is the current platform.

                If it doesn’t represent the GOP, then they shouldn’t have it on their site. They chose to keep it up because that bigotry hasn’t changed.

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                  I think I get part of your malfunction now. You think all conservatives are socially conservative. I am not. I lean much more left on most social topics. I’m right with military, spending, etc.

                  I’m not religious. So the social Bible thumping conservatives I have little in common with.

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                  While I don’t agree with their games. That’s a 1st amendment issue.

                  My view is as a government employee. Do your job and shut up.

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            It’s the whole “campaigning specifically on attacking trans people and minorities” that kinda gives it away

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    Since when is Mystique trans?

    But more importantly, why should we care? People and society change, pop culture is nothing more than a reflection of that. As long the writing is good and the character is interesting, then maybe we should stop being so fucking concerned about the gender identity of completely fictional characters.

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      It appears it was a plot twist recently but can’t say that makes her trans. I don’t know how to do spoilers, so I’ll let you google it. It’s a change in the continuity

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    I don’t think about politics at all while watching movies. But I don’t make politics my identity either

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    Honestly, never really watched X-Men, or read comics, but I can imagine being frustrated if you were a fan of the characters. Just make new characters instead of hijacking old ones. But then again, we wouldn’t have modern Harley Quinn without hijacking, and she’s become a really good character in her own right.

    If it were up to me, I’d have the original heros age, and that way they could become mentors and make room for a new batch of superheros. Superman has been around since 1938, surely he’d be in his 110s, if not older, assuming he was in his 20s back then.

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    X-Men has always tried to talk about social issues.

    I haven’t read a comic since childhood, but it would be a natural progression for the X-Men.

    Comics were woke before woke was a thing but with a conservative twist.

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        The problem with xmen is fundmental. They are weapons. Its not skin color or sexuality or anything, they are living weapons, and the metaphor falls flat before it ever stands up.

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          Exactly. There are mutants many thousands of times more dangerous than atomic bombs. There are mutants the fundamentally subvert the basics of society like free will. To look at it and say “this is just like black people” is, Uhh, questionable at best

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            It wasn’t there are just like black people. It was more about society pushing out anyone who was different, like black people.

            Oddly Stan was a Democrat and they were the most racist ones in the room. So I am not sure why Stan was a Democrat.

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        I don’t think so. I always thought it did a good job of it. I was never meant to be in your face woke crap. It was meant to enforce tolerance.

        Stan Lee was a jew, non-practicing but still a jew. He saw the horrors of WW2. I don’t know if that shaped his views on tolerance but I suspect it did.