@oliphant
@HistoPol @snarfed
@snarfed.org @luca @PCOWandre @fedidevs @fediversenews @chronohart @activitypubblueskybridge
I’m wondering if that means there may be a functional difference between blocking the bridge vs adding the #nobridge tag?
@oliphant
@HistoPol @snarfed
@snarfed.org @luca @PCOWandre @fedidevs @fediversenews @chronohart @activitypubblueskybridge
I’m wondering if that means there may be a functional difference between blocking the bridge vs adding the #nobridge tag?
@HistoPol @jamie @oliphant @snarfed.org @luca @PCOWandre @chronohart @snarfed missed this earlier, but the way out isn’t usually account migration, that’s a very specific and non-standard function that Mastodon implemented (Mastodon has a bad habit of only half-implementing ActivityPub and then rolling out it’s own features and forcing everyone else to comply with their non-standard nonsense… they’re kinda the internet explorer of the fediverse)
The way out is because you can leave without severing connections. I’m not saying you won’t have to re-add people… but that you still have the option to re-add people. If someone deletes their Twitter account… they lose access to everyone that’s only on Twitter. If Bluesky is bridged (and no ifs ands or buts, open bridges will exist despite people’s complaints) and they delete their Bluesky account… they’d still have access to those same people.
The whole reason Facebook sticks around and maintains enormous power is because so many people don’t have the option to leave without making themselves second class citizens in their communities. (Literally the only reason I have a facebook account… if I could access them over fedi, I’d delete my account in a heartbeat)
@shiri
Highly interesting.
I think this sentence is missing the alternative method to #AccountMigration:
“The way out is because you can leave without severing connections.”
@jamie @oliphant @snarfed.org @luca @PCOWandre @chronohart @snarfed
@HistoPol @jamie @oliphant @snarfed.org @luca @PCOWandre @chronohart @snarfed The alternative is making a new account and re-adding the same people.
I had to do that when I moved from Mastodon to Friendica.
@shiri
I did this using a Tool migrating from the (now) #DeadBirdSite.
Still, not being able to migrate the convos is NOT an “alternative”, but an *escape hatch*."
One example, that many will know:
Imagine, that you invented 1000’s of hours uploading and curating pics and shorts on your #Instagram account.
For whatever reason, you cannot maintain your account. Starting a new one, you lose all your work (it’s not just…
@jamie @oliphant @snarfed.org @luca @PCOWandre @chronohart @snarfed
@shiri @jamie @oliphant @snarfed.org @luca @PCOWandre @chronohart @snarfed
(2/2)
…just the pics, but the interaction with contacts.)
PS:
I know:
…there are tools for exporting (beside the point)
…many people here even autodelete there posts (utterly different use-case)
…it’s better than on most corporate sites (yes, but still just “rudimentary” flexibility, at least on #Mastodon.)
…that #Firefish(?) (still?) supports own-post migration (but that was no choice when I joined)
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I didn’t knew this thing that you can’t migrate your follower from mastodon to friendica 😐
From mastodon to pleroma (and i think also misskey) it works.
cc @informapirata@mastodon.uno
@luca I understand your difficulties, but always remember that Friendica is compatible with ActivityPub BUT it works with a different protocol and its profiles are particular objects that contain a kind of unique key
@shiri
@informapirata @luca it used to work with a different protocol, Friendica has been ActivityPub based longer than Mastodon has been alive.
Always remember that Mastodon is well established to be a poor neighbor in the AP community, not supporting the full spec and often implementing their own non-standard solutions.
@shiri@foggyminds.com @informapirata@mastodon.uno @activitypubblueskybridge@venera.social @fedidevs@venera.social @fediversenews@venera.social
Well, migrating followers (just followers) should really be a standard feature of ActivityPub then.
One that must be implemented by all the supposed AP compatible projects
Nobody is gonna buy the theoretical reach of all the same people, like real freedom to change fediverse provider.
cc @evan@cosocial.ca