American modern beers - Just keep throwing hops at it until it stops tasting like piss. Doesn’t matter if it tastes more like a bunch of daffodils than beer, we’ll just call it “craft” 😂
Yeah, Prohibition killed all the beer we had and we did have good beer right up until then. And it’s been a long road back. Those large US breweries are still far more interested in cheap ingredients made cheaply.
But you can find good craft beers scattered amongst the bad craft beers if you look. And home brewing is maybe more popular in the US than Europe, but I’m not sure of that.
You make a good point about prohibition, I guess that will have had a significant effect.
Maybe there are more artisan spirits in the US now having been driven by people with secret stills making moonshine in that period.
It’ll be interesting to see where you guys go with the relaxation of marijuana laws. Maybe people will be home breeding new strains.
Oddly, moonshine and bathtub “gin” became quite the impetus for the popularity of cocktails, at least in the US. Since the added flavors tended to hide the rotgut taste of the illicit booze. And the loss of beer breweries had the effect of giving rise to ice cream parlors and soda fountains since saloons had to close. Plus as Minnesotan, I feel the need to apologize for the Volstead Act, as it became known, since Andrew Volstead was a Minnesota House of Representative and Chairman of the House Judicial Committee and was pretty instrumental in getting prohibition enacted. Scandinavian Protestantism ™ is not a good thing by in large.
We have so many unique individual cultures it’s absolutely ridiculous. E fuckin G, south central LA black culture, WASP rich ass folk, southern bumpkin, Texan, midwestern, New York. Those are a handful of examples, but each is so thoroughly unique, with different accents and culinary offerings, and dress styles ALL OF WHICH in some way influence cultures across the globe. Each state honestly has its own cultural offerings, but as a whole, to say that the U.S. doesn’t have culture is moronic.
It depends on where the bourbon gets made. Very generally, the temperatures cycles vary a lot more more than in Great Britain. So the bourbon “ages” faster than Scotch or Irish whiskys. So bourbons have to be younger and that can make them somewhat sharper in flavor. Plus the requirement of using new oak barrels also cuts the time spent in the barrel.
“Sharper” is one way to say “aged so little still smells of paint thinner” I guess. Find a bottle of say Alberta Premium or a good Canadian Rye whisky (or even Crown Royal, though that’s a lame barley whisky) and give a good sniff. There’s a huge difference to the bourbons unless you get spending
Irish whiskey? Triple pot stilled to strip out all the flavors? Dang near vodka for depth of flavor. (I jest - I do enjoy a good Irish whiskey myself).
Now bourbon is the drink of the gods. Rich deep complex flavors that fill your taste buds with joy. It’s so good the Scots and even the Irish use our used bourbon barrels to impart those complex flavors and taste to their whiskys.
Ididn’t get the suffocating prevalence of corn sirup in the US from reddit/lemmy, but rather from health resources and people from the US.
For real: all that cultural bashing is pointless to begin with. But claimingthat the US has “the best food” when Italy, the middle and far east exist: come on!
Edit: oh no! The 'muricans found my comments. Better prepare for a state funded coup, enforcing neoliberalism through fascists in my country.
But finding the actual great German beer, the blessed helles, is not super easy in US. People seem to think all these bocks are super common in Germany, but it’s actually helles what everybody drinks (and pils in the north). Helles is extremely hard to brew correctly, it requires a very specific temperature and pure ingredients.
I spent most of my vacation in US last year finding a good helles from a bar. I found one after many tries, and the closest I could get to a bavarian helles was in Weaverville, in Leveller Brewing Co. I went to thank the owner for this great beer, and he told me he studied brewing in Bavaria and brewing that beer took a lot of trial and error.
Edit: somebody soon comes to tell how easy it is to find helles in US. Yes, but it often doesn’t taste how it should. Or you get some old bottled stock of Augustiner that is not a same thing as fresh Augustiner in Munich.
I’ve never once been in a town without a beer place within 20 minutes that has more selection than you could try in your entire life before dying of liver failure. Christ most grocery stores have at least an aisle dedicated to food selection.
While I haven’t lived there I’ve done several trips through the country. Maybe 7 weeks in total? I’d choose Belgium if I were to choose a regional winner.
That has nothing to do with the topic at hand, you’re just trying to change the topic, and think that somehow calling out America’s history of colonization (by not only Britain mind you) is some sort of “gotcha” moment.
But I’ll bite. Personally, European descent. But many native friends and family members, and lots of time volunteering with local native non-profits and political campaigns. Which is likely more than 99% of Americans could say about any sort of native support.
I’m on the west coast, you know where all the natives were forced to move. Many of the “illegals” the bigots complain about in my area are actually Native Americans or have native ancestry.
But none of that is about the topic at hand, food and Britain’s lack of utilizing the spices they spent so much effort to get.
A major part of that is obviously potatoes, which originated in South America. They were brought back to Europe through colonization of the Americas. Just like tomatoes and corn.
For spices though, looking up a few recipes to check it looks like usually thyme, rosemary, and parsley are used, which are Mediterranean and Western Eurasia. So maybe… My memory of English colonialism and time-frames closer to home is more lacking.
If I took a guess, then thyme, rosemary and parsley have been brought to the country waay back when the british isles where being conquered instead of doing the conquering.
Been to the US a few times. Your food tastes extremely average and the only difference to anywhere else is that it has about 3 times the kcals and half the nutrition. I’ve had heartburn and constipation virtually every time I’ve visited.
And your beer is possibly the worst in the world. It’s pisswater.
With opinions like that I’d be surprised if you’ve even left your own state, let alone the country.
I mean obviously you’ve never taken the time to explore the US. US food is utterly fantastic.
Our beer is better too.
American beer is not in anyway better than European beer or even English beer.
Something something tastes like piss.
I think you Americans are beginning the long road to good beer with all your craft ales, but you’ve got a way to go yet.
American modern beers - Just keep throwing hops at it until it stops tasting like piss. Doesn’t matter if it tastes more like a bunch of daffodils than beer, we’ll just call it “craft” 😂
daffodils are pretty and make me smile
Yeah, Prohibition killed all the beer we had and we did have good beer right up until then. And it’s been a long road back. Those large US breweries are still far more interested in cheap ingredients made cheaply.
But you can find good craft beers scattered amongst the bad craft beers if you look. And home brewing is maybe more popular in the US than Europe, but I’m not sure of that.
You make a good point about prohibition, I guess that will have had a significant effect. Maybe there are more artisan spirits in the US now having been driven by people with secret stills making moonshine in that period. It’ll be interesting to see where you guys go with the relaxation of marijuana laws. Maybe people will be home breeding new strains.
Oddly, moonshine and bathtub “gin” became quite the impetus for the popularity of cocktails, at least in the US. Since the added flavors tended to hide the rotgut taste of the illicit booze. And the loss of beer breweries had the effect of giving rise to ice cream parlors and soda fountains since saloons had to close. Plus as Minnesotan, I feel the need to apologize for the Volstead Act, as it became known, since Andrew Volstead was a Minnesota House of Representative and Chairman of the House Judicial Committee and was pretty instrumental in getting prohibition enacted. Scandinavian Protestantism ™ is not a good thing by in large.
Something something base an entire market off of a 30 year old meme. You have no clue what you are talking about. Just making up shit 🤣
How much time have you spent in the states?
Base an entire market off a 30 year old meme
😂
What’s the difference between the US and a cup of yoghurt?
Yoghurt will have developed a culture after being left alone for 250 years. /j
Edit: Sorry, should have said "what’s the difference between white Americans.
We have so many unique individual cultures it’s absolutely ridiculous. E fuckin G, south central LA black culture, WASP rich ass folk, southern bumpkin, Texan, midwestern, New York. Those are a handful of examples, but each is so thoroughly unique, with different accents and culinary offerings, and dress styles ALL OF WHICH in some way influence cultures across the globe. Each state honestly has its own cultural offerings, but as a whole, to say that the U.S. doesn’t have culture is moronic.
Fair enough that the USA has culture but that’s a bit far, considering the size of the place.
It’s a joke, relax.
You have your yoghurt. I’ll take the bbq, whiskey, and our massive dining industry that produces the best food on the planet.
Lol. You can keep your bland Whisky (I’ll take Irish, thanks) and your industrially processed junk food, filled to the brim with corn sirup.
I’m not even American but lol at calling triple distilled Irish whiskey less bland than bourbon.
Irish whiskey is like the lager of whiskeys, about as bland as it gets
You guys don’t age your common bourbons long enough though.
It depends on where the bourbon gets made. Very generally, the temperatures cycles vary a lot more more than in Great Britain. So the bourbon “ages” faster than Scotch or Irish whiskys. So bourbons have to be younger and that can make them somewhat sharper in flavor. Plus the requirement of using new oak barrels also cuts the time spent in the barrel.
“Sharper” is one way to say “aged so little still smells of paint thinner” I guess. Find a bottle of say Alberta Premium or a good Canadian Rye whisky (or even Crown Royal, though that’s a lame barley whisky) and give a good sniff. There’s a huge difference to the bourbons unless you get spending
Irish whiskey? Triple pot stilled to strip out all the flavors? Dang near vodka for depth of flavor. (I jest - I do enjoy a good Irish whiskey myself).
Now bourbon is the drink of the gods. Rich deep complex flavors that fill your taste buds with joy. It’s so good the Scots and even the Irish use our used bourbon barrels to impart those complex flavors and taste to their whiskys.
🙄👌🤣
I bet your one of those people who shit on Louisiana while forgetting Hungary is a thing 🤣.
It’s always so obvious when someone who hasn’t stepped foot in the country and gets their entire life view based on
Redditlemmy comments.Edit: oh we’re on .ML of fucking course, this makes more sense. This is pointless you had your mind made up joining the instance.
Check my instance again, smartass.
Ididn’t get the suffocating prevalence of corn sirup in the US from reddit/lemmy, but rather from health resources and people from the US.
For real: all that cultural bashing is pointless to begin with. But claimingthat the US has “the best food” when Italy, the middle and far east exist: come on!
Edit: oh no! The 'muricans found my comments. Better prepare for a state funded coup, enforcing neoliberalism through fascists in my country.
I know you’re probably just trolling but LOL.
You’ve never had Cajun cuisine. Or good Tex-Mex. Or soul food. All brilliant when made by the right chef.
I have, and you’re right, it’s delicious. The silly, throwaway comment about beer was what sent me. 😂
American “beer” lol. Laughs in German.
Edit: Grumpy Muricans, your downvotes only prove my point!
We do dopplebock far better here.
But finding the actual great German beer, the blessed helles, is not super easy in US. People seem to think all these bocks are super common in Germany, but it’s actually helles what everybody drinks (and pils in the north). Helles is extremely hard to brew correctly, it requires a very specific temperature and pure ingredients.
I spent most of my vacation in US last year finding a good helles from a bar. I found one after many tries, and the closest I could get to a bavarian helles was in Weaverville, in Leveller Brewing Co. I went to thank the owner for this great beer, and he told me he studied brewing in Bavaria and brewing that beer took a lot of trial and error.
Edit: somebody soon comes to tell how easy it is to find helles in US. Yes, but it often doesn’t taste how it should. Or you get some old bottled stock of Augustiner that is not a same thing as fresh Augustiner in Munich.
I’ve never once been in a town without a beer place within 20 minutes that has more selection than you could try in your entire life before dying of liver failure. Christ most grocery stores have at least an aisle dedicated to food selection.
This is entirely made up.
Lol. As if you’ve ever even tried the local bavarian breweries (the stuff they sell on Oktoberfest doesn’t count)! xD
While I haven’t lived there I’ve done several trips through the country. Maybe 7 weeks in total? I’d choose Belgium if I were to choose a regional winner.
So you say the only good beer you got is a beer you copied from us?
American Pizza > Italian Pizza.
Correct.
American pizza= more greasy than Italian pizza. That’s why you think it tastes better
Some American pizzas are more greasy than Italian pizza, but not all. America has so many varieties of pizza that Italians would dismiss as not pizza.
Because they are pretentious. They’ll give you shit for ordering cappuccino at night.
What? Why would they give you shit for that?
Because it’s not culturally acceptable. Seriously, try it. It’s insane.
Bri’ish food is some of the best in the world too. Because we know how to use spices and not high fructose corn syrup
Name a British food that uses spices that wasn’t brought by colonization.
Are you a native American or one of those colonizers?
That has nothing to do with the topic at hand, you’re just trying to change the topic, and think that somehow calling out America’s history of colonization (by not only Britain mind you) is some sort of “gotcha” moment.
But I’ll bite. Personally, European descent. But many native friends and family members, and lots of time volunteering with local native non-profits and political campaigns. Which is likely more than 99% of Americans could say about any sort of native support.
I’m on the west coast, you know where all the natives were forced to move. Many of the “illegals” the bigots complain about in my area are actually Native Americans or have native ancestry.
But none of that is about the topic at hand, food and Britain’s lack of utilizing the spices they spent so much effort to get.
🤪
Wew lad
Eels
Used to be a speciality of the city of Ely, Cambridgeshire.
Sheperd’s pie
A major part of that is obviously potatoes, which originated in South America. They were brought back to Europe through colonization of the Americas. Just like tomatoes and corn.
For spices though, looking up a few recipes to check it looks like usually thyme, rosemary, and parsley are used, which are Mediterranean and Western Eurasia. So maybe… My memory of English colonialism and time-frames closer to home is more lacking.
Dammit, forgot the potatoes.
If I took a guess, then thyme, rosemary and parsley have been brought to the country waay back when the british isles where being conquered instead of doing the conquering.
And how, in your wee head, does the fact that it came about due to colonisation make it not British?
Been to the US a few times. Your food tastes extremely average and the only difference to anywhere else is that it has about 3 times the kcals and half the nutrition. I’ve had heartburn and constipation virtually every time I’ve visited.
And your beer is possibly the worst in the world. It’s pisswater.
With opinions like that I’d be surprised if you’ve even left your own state, let alone the country.
Where the heck did you eat? Corporate McSteakhouse? If the response when asked about beer is Bud or Coors then blink twice, you need help.
C’mon, stop it. We Americans are bad at many things, but no one can refute that Americans have created some damn good beer over the last two decades.