• Outsider9042@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Of all the distros I’ve hopped over the last 25 years, the most self destructive one has to have been Ubuntu.

    I use NixOS btw

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      6 months ago

      same here! haven’t borked my system once since using nixOS

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              Ahh man gotta love NVIDIA. Most of my machines have an NVIDIA GPU, but I’ve had only a few minor issues along the way. Mostly from me not reading things correctly.

              Saw issues with flickering electron applications, sleep somehow running the GPU until my battery was drained, hyprland just saying not today and random crashes here and there.

              Systems are pretty stable now, laptop runs fine in hybrid mode (AMD / NVIDIA) and I removed almost all electron applications.

              I’ve found if I can’t figure something out I’ll start a new module for another package. But I guess if it’s something “mission critical” in your case a GPU then it’s pretty hard to do much else.

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      Meanwhile in Gentoo: Still compiling.

      Oh wait: binpkgs, update is done and I don’t have look at NixOS anymore. [=

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    Arch users overreacting to a meme is not helping refute it. I use arch, btw.

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      To every arch meme action, there is an arch user overreaction.

      It’s what makes it fun.

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    And here I just spent an afternoon trying to get hibernation working on fedora unsuccessfully

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    Enuf with the Arch hate already…

    Fedora and Debian are cool,
    but Arch is too,
    their Wiki is amazing and so is the AUR.

    And no I don’t use Arch btw,
    I use Manjaro,
    which has suited me fine for years now.

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      Sad that this is neither a haiku nor a poem. But I still agree.

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        Enough with the Arch hate, already!
        Arch admins just want code sans spaghetti!
        Debian, Fedora, guess they can be cool…
        But us Arch users don’t need no ‘installer tool’

        We all know the Arch wiki’s amazin’,
        (but at the risk of some minor noob hazin’)
        If you can’t get far with their great AUR
        Then Mint might be more where you are

        Now as much as it pains me to say
        There’s no Arch on my box, by the way
        Manjaro’s OS has been my fave for years
        (To be honest Arch leaves many in tears)

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    Also, this whole meme misses out on the whole fun factor of getting everything setup exactly how you want and all the learning along the way. The Arch user is way more likely to fix any issues that come up in the future rather than just nuking the install and starting over Windows-style like this meme suggests.

    Arch user rage bait and I guess I fell for it. I use arch btw.

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      If you actually want to use your machine, keeping the machine from nuking itself shouldn’t be a hobby on its own. I need a reliable platform to work on, not a minefield on a fault line.

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        Don’t know what you’ve been using but I sure wouldn’t describe Arch as any of that. Once things are setup, I’ve extremely rarely run into issues that I didn’t cause myself.

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          “That I didn’t cause myself” is basically self-gaslighting. Using a system in exactly the way it’s supposed to be used shouldn’t cause any issues. Regular updates shouldn’t cause issues. Sure, it can happen, but it shouldn’t be the norm.

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            Recognizing your own mistakes is self-gaslighting now? FFS. And making a mistake sure is not “using a system in exactly the way it’s supposed to be used.”

            Sometimes we make mistakes, it’s okay. If I wanted my OS to coddle me I wouldn’t be using Linux.

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              Doing an update is not a mistake.

              Again, this is exactly how the system is supposed to be used. You run whatever the update command is on your system occasionally. If that regularly breaks your system, the OS is not a stable platform. That might have its reasons, but it doesn’t change the facts.

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                It’s not a fact that updates regularly break the system. I’ve been using Arch for like 20 years now and I can count the amount of times that’s happened to me on one hand. I can do the same for CentOS and other distros as well.

                It also wasn’t what I was referring to when I said I broke my shit by a mistake so you’re sticking words in my mouth.

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                  Then you either have very large hands or don’t update that much. When I did use Arch for a while, Pacman often enough broke some stuff.

                  It also wasn’t what I was referring to when I said I broke my shit by a mistake so you’re sticking words in my mouth.

                  No, I interpret your words in a way appropriate here. You said, that only mistakes cause errors, I said that updates caused errors, and that I don’t think updates count as mistakes. So either you think that updating is a mistake, or we have fundamentally different experiences using Arch. I’m only sticking the shit in your mouth that you left their in the first place.

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        Seems more like an opportunity to learn then if that’s the case. Fixing things has almost never taken me longer than a full reinstall.

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      The only mistake I can remember not being mine, was with GRUB, in which grub-install installed stuff in a different way than what was already installed by EndaeavourOS beforehand, meaning that the default options didn’t work well.

      Of course, there might have been an eos application which was supposed to be used for that.

      Otherwise, whenever systems broke, they were my own doing, sometimes explicitly.

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    With the amount of time and effort used to make this dumb meme I could have installed Arch a dozen times

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    I’ll repeat what I said the last time this was posted: NO f*cking way the Fedora guy got past the partition configuration step without pulling at least a few hairs out! I love Fedora, but that UI is just cursed!

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        I love Anaconda, but I will admit the partition management isn’t very intuitive. That is the only thing I can ding it on though, in every other regard it’s an amazing installer.

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        this is the way

        on my main system i have arch with a partitioning scheme that has worked well for me because i took time to research and identify what i needed from it. i even got full disk encryption working after the fact!

        on fedora i click automatic partitioning, wipe the drives i want, and don’t do more than that because the partitioning screen feels extremely confusing.

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    I heard the hype, did an install of arch ( before the installer script ) followed the wiki and was done and running gnome desktop in a very short amount of time. However, the tweaking afterward is where I prefer a currated distro. i.e. My OpenSUSE does snapshot cleanups on its own based on time or number, btrfs scrub and other jobs happen without me having to touch a command line. Sometimes I just want to get work done and not worry about the OS.

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      Agreed. Try to setup newer nvidia drivers, a newer kernel and it is the furthest from stable as any distro ever was.

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      I think it’s a meme like arch users and vegans “how do you find them in a crowd? Don’t worry they’ll let you know”

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        In reality it’s mostly the opposide tho. Like in any Social Media post about plant based food you get bunch of meat eaters who have to announce to everyone how much they enjoy eating meat.

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      I’ve used all these distros and I’ve never contributed shit lol. Love that shirt though… Is the v supposed to be like the vim logo? Or maybe upside down arch.