It does suck that you have to choose 2 between pockets, affordable, and cute. I never really considered buying anything other than cheap khakis for when I want to dress nice and cheap jeans and cargo pants for when I want to dress utilitarian. It would be nice to have cargo pants in anything other than khaki, black, or jeans.
They make them, it’s just each company that focuses on making them ends up going under, with a new one eventually taking their place, because not enough people are buying these designs.
I find more and more in my life that decisions made by very opinionated “designers” often dominate much more than most people realize, and I honestly think that’s a fairly big reason behind why a lot of name brand stores skimp on the pockets. God forbid someone be seen wearing their Women’s premium shorts with—gasp—a phone bulge?
It’s kind of one of those things where convention follows convention for convention’s sake, and likewise with innovations where it’s safe for the bottom line. It’s really hard to start a fashion brand; it’s a really, really oversaturated market. The issue is that if a company makes the “we have pockets!” its whole shtick, that that’s a very specific sticking point and doesn’t necessarily mean what they make is good.
I also don’t think I need to mention the side benefit to clothing brands that less pocket space makes handbags a de-facto requirement and thus another thing to be sold. Again, of course you can buy whichever clothes of which men’s will have pockets abound, but like, there’s a certain base level of wanting something fashionable that I think is reasonable, and that most men’s clothing fails to achieve even for their target gender.
Men’s clothing sucks ass. Walk into H&M, there’s 500 m² of women’s clothing for literally everything you can imagine, then there’s a little corner with: jeans (blue), jeans (dark blue), jeans (light blue), t-shirt (gray), t-shirt (dark gray), suit (black).
Then the neckbeards on Lemmy who exclusively wear the aforementioned fashion graveyard are like “just buy women’s clothing”, completely missing the fact that the average man does not even fit in most women’s clothes. And even if he does, it’ll probably be with a super saggy waistline and chest area (or saggy everything because most clothes assume tall=fat).
Even as a trans woman after more than 2 years of hormone (so absolutely not looking like man), finding women clothing that fits me is really difficult. It’s usually too narrow at the shoulders for instance, and too large at the hips
I buy cute clothes with pockets when I can, but they can be hard to find in person especially for more form fitting wear that I kind of need to be able to try on to know whether it looks good on my figure.
Some men’s skinny jeans suffice and do have bigger pockets, but often the overall piece shape/cut pattern is often just a bit off and, to be blunt, makes my behind look flat.
I do also have a couple pairs of baggy men’s jeans; my pair of men’s Ariats are arguably my favorite because they’re comfy but still well-decorated/ornamented.
Well what if I want relatively cute clothes that also just so happen to have usable pockets?
It does suck that you have to choose 2 between pockets, affordable, and cute. I never really considered buying anything other than cheap khakis for when I want to dress nice and cheap jeans and cargo pants for when I want to dress utilitarian. It would be nice to have cargo pants in anything other than khaki, black, or jeans.
They make them, it’s just each company that focuses on making them ends up going under, with a new one eventually taking their place, because not enough people are buying these designs.
I find more and more in my life that decisions made by very opinionated “designers” often dominate much more than most people realize, and I honestly think that’s a fairly big reason behind why a lot of name brand stores skimp on the pockets. God forbid someone be seen wearing their Women’s premium shorts with—gasp—a phone bulge?
It’s kind of one of those things where convention follows convention for convention’s sake, and likewise with innovations where it’s safe for the bottom line. It’s really hard to start a fashion brand; it’s a really, really oversaturated market. The issue is that if a company makes the “we have pockets!” its whole shtick, that that’s a very specific sticking point and doesn’t necessarily mean what they make is good.
I also don’t think I need to mention the side benefit to clothing brands that less pocket space makes handbags a de-facto requirement and thus another thing to be sold. Again, of course you can buy whichever clothes of which men’s will have pockets abound, but like, there’s a certain base level of wanting something fashionable that I think is reasonable, and that most men’s clothing fails to achieve even for their target gender.
Men’s clothing sucks ass. Walk into H&M, there’s 500 m² of women’s clothing for literally everything you can imagine, then there’s a little corner with: jeans (blue), jeans (dark blue), jeans (light blue), t-shirt (gray), t-shirt (dark gray), suit (black).
Then the neckbeards on Lemmy who exclusively wear the aforementioned fashion graveyard are like “just buy women’s clothing”, completely missing the fact that the average man does not even fit in most women’s clothes. And even if he does, it’ll probably be with a super saggy waistline and chest area (or saggy everything because most clothes assume tall=fat).
Even as a trans woman after more than 2 years of hormone (so absolutely not looking like man), finding women clothing that fits me is really difficult. It’s usually too narrow at the shoulders for instance, and too large at the hips
Well, you can buy Patagonia, but the price is not something that you will like
Go buy them? They do exist.
I do?
I buy cute clothes with pockets when I can, but they can be hard to find in person especially for more form fitting wear that I kind of need to be able to try on to know whether it looks good on my figure.
Some men’s skinny jeans suffice and do have bigger pockets, but often the overall piece shape/cut pattern is often just a bit off and, to be blunt, makes my behind look flat.
I do also have a couple pairs of baggy men’s jeans; my pair of men’s Ariats are arguably my favorite because they’re comfy but still well-decorated/ornamented.