• DavidGA@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    So, “yes”, but also no. You’ll lose the calibration panel for your display, and the result will probably be unwatchable.

    You’re much better off buying a display which is un-smart to start with. These are often called “commercial displays”. Or of course you could just buy a monitor.

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      I’ve looked, and it’s surprisingly difficult to find one with decent resolution in a decent size. It seems they’re all 1080p nonsense.

      I’m not even looking for fancy features like OLED or whatever, I just want 4k in >60" screen size without any smart features. Why is that so hard??

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        SAMSUNG Business QE43T 43-inch 4K UHD 3840x2160 LED Commercial Signage Display, HDMI, USB, Speakers, 3-Yr Wrnty, 16/7 Operation, 300 nit (LH43QETELGCXZA), Black

        What you want is a “commercial signage display”. They usually have all the modern display features because they’re intended to make products look good, and they’re generally well built because they’re meant to be on all day.

        They cost more than similar TVs because they’re not subsidized by smart TV shovelware and data gathering.

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          Huh, cool! Do you know if they tend to last longer than consumer TVs? If they include better heat dissipation and whatnot (since they’re intended to always be on), it may be worth the extra price.

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            Not from experience, but if it’s designed to be on all day and you only use it 4 hours a day (ish) it should last a long time.

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          damn, this is actually a life saver right here. Hadn’t thought about commercial signage displays. Guess that’ll be living rent free in my head for the next decade until my TV shits the bed.

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            7 months ago

            Heh, same. I bought what was probably the last generation of dumb TVs. It’s a 4k 65" panel from a company called Atyme which I believe is now defunct, made with an LCD panel that was part of some other company’s manufacturing order but didn’t pass quality check, and it has like 2010-ish TV electronics (you can tell because the settings menus look just like what you find on all the TVs from that period). It’s 4k but it doesn’t have any of the fancy features like HDR because the electronics are limited… but it also doesn’t have a bootup delay, it just turns on.

            I didn’t learn about commercial signage displays until after I had bought it.

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              mine is a 1080 panel from 2012 consumer electronics era production. 20s startup delay, because i guess counting numbers is hard or something. Gotta love shitty tech i suppose. The 2010s era UI interface is SO real.

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        It’s hard because the advertising somewhat subsidies the price.(Ie: they want the ad revenue so they will sell the display at cost with the intention that they’ll make all the profit back from ads)

        Yo can absolutely find commercial displays in that size and resolution, but you’ll pay a much higher price for them.

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          It’s probably worth it if they’re built better, which they probably are if they’re intended to run continuously. So better heat dissipation, mosfets, etc.

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      Or I could just accept my place and watch the ads and go along with all the caveats like a good consumer. I don’t see that happening.

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        I have a mix of smart and dumb TV’s.

        All of them show me the same number of ads: zero.

        All of them have the same level of access to networks (LAN/WAN): none.

        Worst offender is a legacy Roku that keeps up it’s direct connect WiFi broadcast, but it’s on its own isolated VLAN.

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        Just buy a smart tv and don’t connect it to internet. You’ll get to buy from the same selection and enjoy the subsidized price.

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        My Vizio smart TV’s smart features won’t work if you don’t accept the terms of use. HDMI inputs worked though, and probably TV tuner… didnt try it. I eventually accepted of course, but that might be an option for you.