I don’t think it was petty, Reddit as a platform made clear that they don’t respect their user base and don’t deserve control over the data built by and for the community. Reddit is nothing without its users and data, leaving the platform and deleting posted content after what they did sends a clear and proportional message imo.
Getting rid of API access was one thing. It was entirely another when Spez was dripping with “Get back to work you unpaid mods! I need to get rich!”. That’s when I turned to fuck spez.
I kind of agree. Part of the point was that they don’t want AI trained on their posts. It’s not clear that this actually accomplishes that but it at least has a chance of working.
Yeah, I’m sure they’re able to get older snapshots with the data, so my motivation was never to prevent training - which I couldn’t care less tbh - but it was exactly to diminish Reddit’s perceived value.
Before the controversy, the platform was even more useful than Google to me, and I think this puts the whole community in a bad situation. They chose profit over openness, and like other social networks, started gatekeeping the content we generated. It won’t surprise me if the platform, like many before, starts requiring signing in to read content in the near future.
If I could just dump the content I created, in context, somewhere open and not controlled by Reddit, I would have done it instead of deleting it. The internet archive, search engine indexers, and other private crawlers have a lot of this “deleted” data, so I think worrying about AI training is a waste of time after the data is made public.
Lol, what’s the problem with inconveniencing Reddit users? That’s the whole point! Get more users to feel shitty about the site and be frustrated with it, turning elsewhere for answers. If they cannot find them, then that’s their problem!
it might be an unpopular oppinion here,
but deleting posts & comments was overly petty.
i just stopped browsing reddit,
thats not inconveniencing other users and imo more impactfull anyway.
I don’t think it was petty, Reddit as a platform made clear that they don’t respect their user base and don’t deserve control over the data built by and for the community. Reddit is nothing without its users and data, leaving the platform and deleting posted content after what they did sends a clear and proportional message imo.
Getting rid of API access was one thing. It was entirely another when Spez was dripping with “Get back to work you unpaid mods! I need to get rich!”. That’s when I turned to fuck spez.
I kind of agree. Part of the point was that they don’t want AI trained on their posts. It’s not clear that this actually accomplishes that but it at least has a chance of working.
Yeah, I’m sure they’re able to get older snapshots with the data, so my motivation was never to prevent training - which I couldn’t care less tbh - but it was exactly to diminish Reddit’s perceived value.
Before the controversy, the platform was even more useful than Google to me, and I think this puts the whole community in a bad situation. They chose profit over openness, and like other social networks, started gatekeeping the content we generated. It won’t surprise me if the platform, like many before, starts requiring signing in to read content in the near future.
If I could just dump the content I created, in context, somewhere open and not controlled by Reddit, I would have done it instead of deleting it. The internet archive, search engine indexers, and other private crawlers have a lot of this “deleted” data, so I think worrying about AI training is a waste of time after the data is made public.
Honestly people underestimate how valuable modern comments are. Not to mention you are no longer creating activity so parts of Reddit die a little.
Lol, what’s the problem with inconveniencing Reddit users? That’s the whole point! Get more users to feel shitty about the site and be frustrated with it, turning elsewhere for answers. If they cannot find them, then that’s their problem!
If anyone’s petty it’s spez/reddit. Users are reacting to that pettiness. And are 100% justified.
Is that meant to be a poem or something, lol