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        No qualms with rich white Detroit Kid Rock doing country but can’t have a black woman who grew up in Texas making country songs.

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        Almost like… radio stations are privately owned businesses that know it’s not a good idea to piss of their (very few remaining) listeners? Who gives a fuck what country radio stations are doing lol

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          Radio stations are in a privileged position of control over the scarce piece of radio spectrum they use to broadcast, and deserve to be regulated in exchange for that privilege.

          I’m not saying the FCC should force them to play Beyonce, but the “iTs a pRiVatE bUsINeSS” argument is 100% bullshit in this case.

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            …radio is regulated and the government can’t nor should be allowed to force media to play certain musicians.

            Let us be real, if a law like that is ever enacted, it won’t be to force country music listeners to listen to black artists, it will be to force black listeners to listen to Perry Como.

            Had idea all around.

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            Should radio stations be regulated? Yes (we both agree on this). Should those regulations include forcing them to play songs against their commercial interests? No (we also both agree on this).

            I genuinely don’t even understand what kind of argument you’re trying to make here.

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              I genuinely don’t even understand what kind of argument you’re trying to make here.

              I’m pointing out that the “it’s a private business” argument doesn’t apply. The radio station can choose not to play Beyonce because the FCC allows it to make that choice, not because it has some sort of inherent right to make that choice.

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                not because it has some sort of inherent right to make that choice

                The US legal system works on “all powers not explicitly stated to belong to [governing body] are not granted” so, yes, the radio station does have an inherent right to make that choice. The FCC doesn’t allow them that right. Rather, they don’t forbid them from it, which is completely different.

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                  No, that’s not true. The FCC explicitly has the power (as delegated by Congress) to regulate interstate commerce, which includes radio spectrum since radio waves cross state lines.

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      We don’t care. It wasn’t that good of a song. If it wasn’t for hype-fluff like this it would be forgotten already.

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    I’m happy for her and all, but I feel this would be more impressive if it was anyone Else. Beyonce has a huge following and “The Hive” would help prop her up more than anyone else. Get your bag I guess.

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    I’ll never quite understand the hype to artists like Beyonce. Of course “she” won. She is actually a conglomerate of like 100 song writers, dozens of producers, hundreds of engineers, mixers and editors, backup vocals, etc. It’s not like back in the day when an artist got big by their own merit, now it’s an over produced and manufactured artist that wins, and yes she’s talented, because she’s been manufactured to be

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      It’s not like back in the day when an artist got big by their own merit

      Back in what day? Small tribes where there was no collaboration with outside sources before the written word?

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        I mean if you’re stupid and don’t know about the history of say rock and roll, let alone music. Artists in the 60s and 70s like the stones, Beatles, hell even newer people like Nirvana, foo fighters, etc. Write all their songs, most even do their own editing and mixing. The Beatles didn’t have a hundred people in the studio writing and mixing while they sipped margaritas and got their nails done.

        Dude there are literally documentaries about musicians and the writing process, and they didn’t always involve 100 people.

        Edit: just want to look at my albums. So many like Metallica, all songs written and composed by the members of the group. Go look at the credits just for song writers in a Beyonce album, there’s like two dozen writers

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      Beyond that, her husband is a billionaire investor (formerly musician, but who are we kidding to still use that descriptor). Even with her success, which can be criticized from both sides enough, that alone precludes her from being one of the “good ones.”

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      My wife has played me some of the songs. The music is fine, if boring, but the lyrics… Amateurish would be the the kindest word I could use. I know pop musicians aren’t known for deep meaningful lyricism but Beyonce sounds like a middle schooler that did her poetry assignment the night before it was due. It’s honestly atrocious.

      Even the covers are kinda bad too, at least to me. Your mileage may vary on those. At least the guitar on Jolene is pretty good.

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        People like her don’t write her own lyrics. She’s got a whole team. She doesn’t really do anything but show up, she’s got actual People who do the rest

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      Speaking as someone who has actually given the music a fair shake (sorry, other guy), it’s actually really good. I wasn’t super feeling it on my first listen, but it just keeps growing on me with each new listen lol. You’re gonna get a lot of people that hate on it for the same reasons they do hip hop in general, or black women in general, especially because she’s moving into the country space, but I wouldn’t put too much weight on those opinions. It’s a great album (except the Post Malone feature lol). I think DAUGHTER is a standout track if you just want to sample it.