It started with notebooks, but that wasn’t the master plan.

It started with notebooks, but that wasn’t the master plan.

  • frezik@midwest.socialEnglish
    1·
    6 months ago

    Here’s the internals of the 13 with a 61Wh battery:

    https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/IMG_0054.jpeg

    And here’s the 16 with an 85Wh battery:

    https://images.prismic.io/frameworkmarketplace/0b001897-9e05-406e-8f50-af54ba76a723_Load+up+on+memory+and+storage.jpg?auto=compress,format

    Where would a larger battery fit?

    The real answer to your question is to wait 3-4 years for battery technology to get about 20% better (given historical trends of 5-8% improvements per year).

    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      2·
      6 months ago

      You’d obviously have to design the laptop around the battery and not just retrofit it in. Make it a bit thicker, make it a bit longer? The 16" already isn’t a small, thin, or light laptop so the little extra room needed wouldn’t make that much of a difference.

      • frezik@midwest.socialEnglish
        1·
        6 months ago

        Longer doesn’t work because it has to fit in existing bags people have. Thickening it won’t work because reviewers will then complain it’s too thick.

        I have a Toshiba laptop from around 2012 which has a slide-out optical drive. To me, it’s thick but not too thick; it’s just right. If we could return to that size, I think we’d be good. It’d also support better cooling (my Framework 13 with an i7-1280P gets hot, and there just isn’t enough space for a bigger cooler). Reviewers over the past 10 years have pushed for thinner and thinner, and we gave up too much in the meantime.

        Same goes for screen bezels and built in webcams. All else being equal, a cam with a bigger sensor is better because it can capture more light. Thin screen bezels force a small webcam, and thus your laptop has a shittier camera than a 10 year old smartphone.

        In both cases, I don’t think actual customers care all that much past a certain point. Reviewers have been deducting stars for a slightly thicker case or a slightly thicker bezel than other models on the market, and customers just go along with it.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          6 months ago

          I don’t think people looking at Framework care too much about reviewers. They’re targeting DIY enthusiasts, which are also the type that’ll probably be reading the measurements and whatnot themselves.