• lud@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    I wonder why they can’t just buy straight from Cisco, surely they are big enough and the equipment is sensitive enough for that to make sense.

  • umbrella@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    this almost 100% means someone was gathering inteligence.

    counterfeit or otherwise messed with hardware wont just pop up on military operations.

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      6 months ago

      The DoD will soon be requiring itself and Contractors to start following Rev 5 of the NIST SP 800-53 Risk Management Framework. In this revision are more robust controls for Supply-side security, which the DoD has been trying to incorporate for over 10 years.

      Americans should know that the military and DOD and it’s contractors do their best to purchase authentic hardware from reputable vendors, but there are exceptions and alternate procurement allowances if the need is great and the standard more secure lines are unavailable or simply on back order.

      It’s usually then that some of the fake hardware makes it into use

      • naticus@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        800-53 Rev 5 is such a pain in the ass to implement fully but holy shit is it much needed. Bad actors out there everywhere and if followed to the letter, those controls will save you almost every step of the way. “Almost” because there will always be a new method to infiltrate an organization or agency, but the damage control built into these controls should lessen the impact regardless.

  • tearsintherain@leminal.space
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    6 months ago

    $$$$$ “The 2022 audit, released in November, marked the fifth year the Pentagon had failed its audit (the process started in 2017).”

    Jon Stewart blasts ‘corruption’ in Pentagon spending

    “Now, I may not understand exactly the ins and outs, and the incredible magic of an audit. But I’m a human being who lives on the Earth and can’t figure out how $850 billion to a department means that the rank and file still have to be on food stamps,” Stewart said. “To me, that’s fucking corruption. And I’m sorry. And, if like, that blows your mind and you think that’s like a crazy agenda for me to have, I really think that that’s institutional thinking, and that it’s not looking at the day-to-day reality of the people that you call the greatest fighting force in the world.”>

  • tal@lemmy.today
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    6 months ago

    This sounds like a lot of things were going wrong. Okay, first you had the guy committing fraud.

    But why is the military sourcing its network hardware from random small resellers off Amazon? Like, even if the hardware were authentic, that seems like a route for potential trouble.

    And it sounds like questionable stuff is getting into Cisco’s official supply chains, too:

    That same year,  Al Palladin, Cisco’s legal director of global brand protection, told CRN that even authentic Cisco channel partners were acquiring products outside of Cisco-authorized means because it was faster.

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      6 months ago

      The military isn’t buying from Amazon, they buy from “xyz hardware supplies ltd”, who buy from Amazon and charge three times the price to the military.

      Some will be companies that specialise in sourcing obsolete hardware, who just buy shit off Amazon/eBay and issue the correct paperwork.

      I’ve read that the US government has to give preference in contract bids to small businesses, veteran owned, woman owned, etc, businesses, which is great in theory, but it can create situations like this.

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        It’s insane to me all the different ways the government procures things.

        Just get it straight from the manufacturer. Then if anything ever goes wrong there isn’t the “who is REALLY to blame on this long chain of people” it’s “hey this shit is broken, YOU are responsible for it”

        Of course sometimes they do it as a form of opsec, if you distribute parts across many small time sellers it’s easier to hide something than one big order from the primary source.

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          6 months ago

          I suspect the plausible deniability of responsibility is a feature not a bug to many of the bureaucrats.

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            6 months ago

            And more complexity is always good for corruption, since every additional kind of complexity introduces gray areas where it’s unclear who’s to blame.

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    6 months ago

    I read this as “counterfeit Costco gear” and the only thing* I can think is that they’ll at least have plenty of giant bags of chips

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      6 months ago

      At one point I had Cisco and Costco in my stock portfolio and that was pretty confusing lol

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    6 months ago

    These fake cisco devices might be less vulnerable than the real devices.