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    Hollonbeck admitted to his actions and said he was “afraid for his daughter’s safety and didn’t know who she was with or that she had left without permission,” according to the report.

    Oh, well if he didn’t know then it’s perfectly understandable to point a gun at an underpaid taxi driver.

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      I thought pointing guns at people who you thought wanted to sleep with your daughter was something out of bad jokes and old movies. Apparently not.

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        I had a old Co worker who told this story… When he was a teenager/early 20s he had several guns and was a member of the gun range. One day he went shooting and came home. Like a good gun owner started cleaning his guns when there was a knock on the door.

        He held the shot gun he was holding over his should, several more from pistols to rifles on the table and answered the door.

        Unknown to him his younger sister had a first date that night, and he was here to pick her up. Needless to say she was home before curfew and was a complete gentleman to her.

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      This is why it’s so important to have AR’s at arms reach, who knows how this situation could have ended up had he not been armed.

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    Going to guess he considers himself a responsible gun owner.

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      Bigfoot, Mothman and the Responsible Gun Owner are my favorite mythological creatures of American folklore.

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        I actually am a responsible gun owner. I keep my guns locked up when I’m not going to the range, and I store the ammo separately. When I clean my guns, I always check the chamber to verify it is empty. I have been shooting guns since I was about 8, and I’ve never had a negligent discharge and never will with how anal I am about gun safety.

        The only reason I don’t carry is that I don’t have the money for it right now, and I don’t feel I am a good enough shot. I am only confident at 20 to 25 feet.

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          Well that’s good, but even if we are generous and say half the ~80 million gun owners in the US, are as responsible with their weapons as you are; that leaves a fuckton of gun wielders who are not responsible.
          I am not outright anti-gun, but it makes no sense to me it took two tests and several weeks of waiting, to get a driver’s license; and if I want to do e.g. more than basic electrical or plumbing changes in my home, I should get a permit and there will be an inspection. Yet I could waltz into a store, buy guns like I was a personal army, and at worst I would have to wait a couple days to pick them up. As far as I know, there are 0 requirements or inspections for if you have a gun safe; let alone any form of test or licensing of if you are just barely competent and safe weilding them.

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            I completely agree with you on everything you said. I would say that out of every gun owner I have ever met, I would say less than 10% of them have the emotional temperament to own a gun, let alone the ability or the knowledge to keep it safely locked up.

            There should 100% be tests, and you should need to have a license to even own a gun, and almost no one needs to own one. It truly is absolutely ridiculous how easy it is to buy one in the usa. I don’t understand why anyone is against gun control other than them owning stock in gun companies ir the nra ir not giving a shit about other people.

            And can I just say I don’t get why people are so quick to downvote my other comment for what seems like no reason at all.

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              Because every gun owner thinks they’re a responsible gun owner. Everyone is until they do something stupid and to act like you aren’t capable of making a mistake is naive. The problem is your mistake has deadly consequences. You can make the same argument for cars except driving isn’t a hobby in the US its a need. Like you said no one needs to own a gun.

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                I said almost no one needs one. There are still people who do need firearms. I’m not in that category anymore.

                I fully recognize I can and do make dumb mistakes in my life, which is why I am so anal about gun safety. I make a show of me checking the chamber or cylinder. I make it known to anyone in the house that I am removing a gun from its case and unlocking it. I ask others to double-check the guns for me to ensure they are unloaded, and even then, they are never pointed in the direction of someone. Lack of respect for the dangers of firearms leads to negligence and negligence kills.

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          Provides evidence for responsible gun ownership

          Lemmy: Time to downvote this person for neutralizing one of my arguments.

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        There’s definitely self-selection happening. A paranoid individual is more likely to feel the need to buy a gun. A person who wants control over others is more likely to feel that same need. A person with malicious or suicidal intent is more likely to feel that same need.

        Meanwhile, it’s entirely a coin-toss on whether a sane, responsible individual actually feels like they can/should own a firearm. I think as we get into worse civil unrest, we will inevitably see more individuals feel that they have no choice but to arm themselves, but for the time being it’s going to the less savory folks rushing to buy.

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    What a dumbass… and as bad as this is… it gets WORSE:

    https://www.wesh.com/article/milton-florida-dad-gun-uber/60744321

    “That vehicle was completely unmarked. In my mind, this was not good, right?" Dr. Sean Hollonbeck told WEAR News.

    I can’t say I’ve seen an unmarked Uber or Lyft car, generally they’re very good about displaying one or both signs, so doubting this statement from the jump.

    “I served 31 years, I was an Army doctor, I trained as a Navy flight surgeon, I served with the 7th Special Forces Group, I served with the 160th," Hollonbeck said. "I served six tours.”

    Then you should know better.

    https://weartv.com/news/local/milton-dad-accomplished-veteran-tells-his-side-in-uber-driver-gun-case-involving-daughter

    "And everybody knows what’s going on in this country with fentanyl and child trafficking and rape. Terrible stuff.”

    If they were engaging in child trafficking, why would they be bringing her BACK to your house? 🤔

    “In this country you’re innocent until proven guilty,"

    You mean, like the Uber driver?

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      I didn’t even know marked ubers were an expectation. Here you’d be hard pressed to find a marked one.

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        I just went to Vegas and probably took 30 ubers while there. Almost none had signs. One had a police license plate though lol

        I think there’s a lot more to this guy’s relationship with his daughter. She had other friends at the house and hadn’t told him she’d left. She also went inside and left during this confrontation. Sounds like a very strained relationship for many reasons - eg I wonder how many times he’s threatened her with a gun etc

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      Massive disclaimer before this whole paragraph that this person’s actions are abhorrent and totally unjustified. Just want to provide some perspective on a single relatively minor point.

      Regarding the unmarked uber it’s actually more common than you’d think. In some cities uber will send you a little decal you’re meant to put in the windshield of your car, but it could easily be missed and some drivers who maybe only drive a couple times a month may choose to not have that on display everywhere they go. Uber actually states that you’re only supposed to have it installed while you’re active in the app, but I don’t think it would last very long if you peeled it off and stored it in your car or on a shelf every time you needed to go to the grocery store let alone if you drive for personal reasons on a daily basis. Personally when I was driving uber with that decal provided I chose to just keep it on my windshield, but there’s no enforcement of that policy unless people scanned all your windows before getting in and decided that your license plate matching the app wasn’t enough evidence to get in your car.

      In the previous city I drove uber (albeit it was only around 80k population) they didn’t provide any sort of markings. Plenty of uber drivers had signs, but those light up signs in particular are actually sold by third parties and as a result you need to pay out of pocket to get one. While I did choose to invest in a phone mount which is about the same price, I refused on principle to use my own money to buy signage.

      So in short I can assure you that there are plenty of uber drivers in unmarked cars, either due to signage which doesn’t meet drivers’ needs or a lack of any signage provided by uber.

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        For the sticker thing, we had this solution waaaaaaay back in the day when I was in college…

        Parking sticker had to be displayed, but if you didn’t want to permanently mount it to one car, you did this:

        Take the lid off a casette tape case, put the sticker on that, put the lid on the dashboard. Take it with you when you don’t need it.

        I guess nowadays you’d use the lid off a CD case. :)

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            What’s a CD?

            I believe it refers to a “Certificate of Deposit,” a type of savings account that pays a fixed interest rate on money held for an agreed upon period of time.

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          You’d need a 45 sleeve for this sticker haha. That’s a clever idea though. I’ll probably use that if I ever need a parking sticker again.

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          In Europe, some cars have a plastic clip on the windshield, where you can put stuff in it(parking permits, etc).

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      Probably not an amazing parent if his 13yo daughter is sneaking out to do God knows what. I get being upset, but I’m sure you could talk to the Uber driver or God forbid your own daughter to figure out where she’s been.

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    The young female was still in the vehicle when she saw her father run up to the driver with an AR-15 in hand and force him to the ground, according to an arrest report.

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    Oh, I get it now. THAT’S why we need to be able to own assault rifles.

    Also remember kids, if someone voluntarily signs up to get paid to go kill people, they’re not to be revered, they are mercenaries.

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      It’s the escalation of fear in the US. We’re force fed fear by the news, media, and Hollywood. Everything is tension and violence.

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      When you have a gun, especially a “manly” gun like an AR-15, you start having intrusive thoughts and desire to use it.

      Same with police. If you dress up for war and talk up an us/them mentality eventually it boils over to what we have today. Many cops (not all) are just playing dress-up so they can play war.

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    Lose Your Right To Own Firearms And Surrender A Few Years Of Your Incredibly Short Life In One Easy Step!

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      I wish this were true in practice.

      I have been dealing with a crazy ex-friend who as it turns out is a felon who was already dinged for gun possession from a previous felony and now that I have new evidence of it happening again the police do not care at all, even though he harasses me constantly from different phone numbers every day.

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    Some gun owners look for any reason to use their gun. Smh.

    Send these idiots off to fight a war. They will have all the chances to use their gun. most will probably be better off used as sandbags

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    Wasn’t there a post just yesterday about a study saying people are more apprehensive of their neighbors when their neighbors have this type of gun?

    Yeah, this is why.

    And yeah yeah yeah, any random crazy person could have any random gun. But when you see your neighbor loading up with these guns you kinda know they are extra crazy.

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    And the local trough feeders statement, “I think it’s a case of being an overprotective parent to some extent, Sheriff Johnson said". Translation: “It’s cool, just a helicopter dad with an AR and Mal-adjusted over reactivity compounded by a low fear tolerance.”

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    Yet another responsible gun owner acting completely rationally. Good thing you can just go out and buy a gun and just have to wait 3 days to get it without any sort of checks and balances other than a simple background check.

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      Here in Texas, there isn’t even a waiting period, at least for handguns.

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        Yet another reason Texas is turning into a hellscape. I want to escape it, but also don’t want to abandon it when there’s things we can do to turn it around.