For protesters to act so socked that they’re getting arrested for protesting against the power elites at their schools while on private property seems pretty naive to me.
I’m really not sure what the appropriate reaction should be. Are they meant to celebrate getting arrested? It’s an expected outcome, but that doesn’t make it right.
It’s an expected outcome, but that doesn’t make it right.
i didn’t say that
I’m really not sure what the appropriate reaction should be.
not to be surprised that it happened, for one. and, while universities do generally, have an atmosphere which support free expression, and many even have somewhat permissive protest policies, they’re private property. now, i’m not defending the actions of the universities, but i’m saying that getting arrested for protesting on private property vs while protesting on public property are two different things-- and one isn’t nearly as outrageous as the other.
That’s one way to look at it. Another is that, rather than truly outrageously throwing the book at these protesters, the worst they got was a massive inconvenience.
Now, I’m not trying to downplay getting arrested - even brutally so. I have been arrested at protests by some nasty pigs who beat the shit out of me, and I have spend nights in jail as a result. I know how bad that shit sucks.
What I’m saying is that it’s what they signed up for. And if they want to protest police brutality, go do that, too, but don’t act all shocked that this happened.
Edit: in an ideal world, protesters would be treated with dignity and respect— but if we lived in an ideal world, there would be no need to protest.
Fair points. I just really hate the state monopoly on violence that they love to use almost exclusively on leftwing protests. If other such protesters were arrested as well, it would be less grating on my morals.
To be honest I haven’t seen anyone act surprised because they’re getting arrested for protesting. Then again, I’m not American, and the only news I’m reading are here on lemmy (and reddit).
I’m really not sure what the appropriate reaction should be. Are they meant to celebrate getting arrested? It’s an expected outcome, but that doesn’t make it right.
don’t be obtuse
i didn’t say that
not to be surprised that it happened, for one. and, while universities do generally, have an atmosphere which support free expression, and many even have somewhat permissive protest policies, they’re private property. now, i’m not defending the actions of the universities, but i’m saying that getting arrested for protesting on private property vs while protesting on public property are two different things-- and one isn’t nearly as outrageous as the other.
part of civil disobedience is getting arrested.
I think it’s the fact that they are arrested and very rarely actually charged with a crime, which essentially amounts to state sanctioned kidnapping.
But otherwise I do agree with you.
That’s one way to look at it. Another is that, rather than truly outrageously throwing the book at these protesters, the worst they got was a massive inconvenience.
Now, I’m not trying to downplay getting arrested - even brutally so. I have been arrested at protests by some nasty pigs who beat the shit out of me, and I have spend nights in jail as a result. I know how bad that shit sucks.
What I’m saying is that it’s what they signed up for. And if they want to protest police brutality, go do that, too, but don’t act all shocked that this happened.
Edit: in an ideal world, protesters would be treated with dignity and respect— but if we lived in an ideal world, there would be no need to protest.
Fair points. I just really hate the state monopoly on violence that they love to use almost exclusively on leftwing protests. If other such protesters were arrested as well, it would be less grating on my morals.
Me too
To be honest I haven’t seen anyone act surprised because they’re getting arrested for protesting. Then again, I’m not American, and the only news I’m reading are here on lemmy (and reddit).