• blazera@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago
      1. You dont even like your candidate, why should i come to your side instead of you come to mine?
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          5 months ago

          whichever side we support stands a chance of winning. They aint gonna compete in a game of skill in November, they’re gonna ask us who wins and we decide.

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            Yes, “we”, consisting of statistically significant factions of the voting population. Campaigns take time and money, neither of which any candidates besides the two front-runners have enough of to be competitive. They’re not gonna ask you who wins, you don’t decide. I don’t see 70 million Americans shifting to anyone else at this stage.

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              you’ve got a paradox going where me supporting a better candidate is pointless because my vote is worth nothing and I cant change anything.

              but also that I have to support your candidate because my vote matters if its for them.

              my vote matters and I’m giving it to a better candidate.

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                Is it a paradox to say that driving in circles around a roundabout is pointless because it doesn’t get you anywhere, but driving along the route to a destination does? Driving is driving, does it work or not? Paradox! Smearing food on your belly doesn’t satisfy your hunger, but eating it does. Does food satisfy hunger or not? Paradox!

                If we had approval or ranked choice voting, voting third party would accomplish something. Since we have First Past the Past elections, voting third party is as effective as smearing food on your belly or circling a roundabout for hours.

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                  Its pretty irritating everytime someone brings up ranked choice voting. They know its a good thing, they want it to happen. But its getting brought up to try and criticize my choice of candidate. You want ranked choice voting? You know who supports ranked choice voting in their election platform? My candidate! I am well aware of how shit FPTP voting is, Im not the one promoting it.

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                    5 months ago

                    I’m not promoting it either, that doesn’t change the fact that it is what we use. Voting for a candidate that supports RCV doesn’t basically mean that the election you voted for them in becomes retroactively RCV, you act based on what the system is, not what it should be.

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                Don’t forget that it’s not ok to vote for your candidate because they don’t already have enough support, therefore there’s no way to ever reach the threshold where it’ll be ok to vote for them.

                It’s only ok to vote for the neolibs that the billionaires approve after a promise that nothing’s really going to change.

                Even in a state that’s so blue the Dems have no chance of losing, voting for or writing in someone left of the incumbent will still be deemed a vote for the red team.