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U.K. makes Google remove search results going to illegal prescription drug website
I’ve seen pinknews described as a leftie dailymail.
Lemmy[.]zip has some sane people.
Don’t you need a prescription for them? Of course they wouldn’t want shady online retailers selling controlled substances.
Yes you do, which they explicitly and deliberately make next to impossible to access through legitimate channels
Maybe if they UK provided prescriptions to people in a timely manner, people wouldn’t resort to other means of getting their medical treatment.
A lot of these complaints seem to be issues that come with socialized healthcare.
Yes, but it’s a bit hard to get; even in countries that try to improve trans-care rather than reduce it.
There are just so many therapists; the waiting lists are sometimes simply closed because they stretch years.
For many people, these hormones mean the difference between a livable life and extreme dysphoria, depression and suicidality.
If they could get them on the regular way, they would. But the regular way is often full of problems. So some people have to fall back to just do it themself.
I even heard of doctors who do some medical checks under the counter to ensure everything is done as safe as possible (but aren’t able to prescribe hormones themself without prior psychotherapeutical indication)
So; your point would be valid in theory, but unfortunately for many trans-people, it’s the only way to get their possibly life-saving medication.
In the us, estrogen is not a controlled substance, and not controlled as a steroid, T is.
estrogen’s not a controlled substance tho
It is tho.
Good. People shouldn’t be ordering body altering chemicals randomly off the Internet.
This isn’t a big story, in fact its basic legal discourse and didn’t even come with a drug bust or actual crackdown.
If this story was about a website selling benzos and the comments were full of stay at home white women complaining about the suffering they would now endure having to be sober, people would be laughing at them, and worried about their need for this. Not completely identical but this kind of rage bait only works because of the group it points to.
Except transfem hormones are not a controlled substance, not addictive, purchased for therapeutic purposes and not for abuse, needed by a lot of people because of outdated/inefficient/underfunded healthcare systems.
So yeah, it’s completely like selling benzos except for all of the reasons it is not.
No it’s a body altering drug that directly impacts sensitive hormones balances that our bodies use for regulation and development.
It’s still a life altering drug even if it’s not addictive. Your argument doesn’t make sense cause it’s got a huge impact if it can be bought by anyone with access to digital currency. And is it a lot of people? The trans community is supposedly only a fraction of a percent to a percent of the overall populace. People are suffering from the underfunded healthcare in much more dire ways than cosmetic medications.
Are we ok with people selling chemo medication and opioids through the Internet? People have pain and are dying of cancer and need the drugs too.
You are upset because of the community it impacts not the actual problems it represents.
“Life altering drug.”
Fucking all drugs are, that’s what drugs do???
There is not a lot of trans people so it’s okay to fuck them over.
Literally what is your point there?
“Uhh it’s only millions of people we are denying healthcare to and then criminalising when they want to get support themselves and not billions, rookie numbers.”
Cosmetic medication
So at the same time it’s very serious and dangerous but also just a stupid silly cosmetic thing?
The answer is that no, it’s not just a cosmetic thing, there is a mountain od evidence for proven therapeutic effects of hrt, these drugs save people’s lives.
If we let people sell fireworks online what’s stopping someone from selling a nuke??? Explain this leftists???
Clearly chemo needs a higher amount of expertise to prescribe and the treatment needs to be watched much more carefully, and estrogen clearly has less abuse potential than opioids.
You are upset because of the community it impacts not the actual problems it represents.
Ah yes, we all know trash girlfriend at lemmy dot world who loves the current fucked up UK healthcare system except for when it comes to trans people.
I am mad because that system is disproportionately hard on the community, I am mad because people like you love to dismiss our problems and suffering as frivolous without ever trying to first engage with our experiences.
For my whole life I’ve been living in less than great places in regards to trans healthcare, without being able to solve this problem myself, I would not be here.
Not all drugs but yeah that’s why you can’t just buyosy of them on the Internet.
I didn’t say the things you are thinking I said.
You have your problems of what you desire in life and so do the rest of us. Yeah it’s annoying that we live in the modern age where money and resources could buy you the body you want but you can’t get it but that’s true for people with worse disability than you and it’s a lot less fixable.
Everyone is suffering and you living your suffering has got the idea that yours is the most important which it is cause you are living it. Doesn’t mean that everything you do and support to achieve that is good. Sorry. It doesn’t.
We either live in a society where we try to help everyone and limit abuse potential for everyone or we let it be a free for all and we are clearly somewhere in the middle swinging back and forth, which means we are all fucked.
I understand your experiences and have lived them closer than you think as the Bi kid in a farming town that was bullied into multiple suicide attempts. But you don’t care. You want to be angry and you want to be right. As is tradition for humans.
I just don’t care to pretend otherwise. Things that make humans feel good about themselves are life savers regardless of what it is because it’s the only thing we crave. To feel good. Unfortunately that just isn’t life.
Don’t speak for the disabled here unless you’re one of us. I can buy hearing aids off Google as I well should be able to.
Can you buy Cochlear implants off the Internet to install yourself?
How about a corneal transplant?
Can I get myself new kidneys or my sister a new heart? Trust me they would be very useful for making a better life for us.A hearing aid is absolutely not in the same realm even if it’s part of the new technological advancements that we can use money to buy to alter our physical nature. But you know that this is a different thing. You are doing a bait and switch whataboutism to diminish the actual conversation of chemical drugs that alter body chemistry being sold without a permit and prescription to anyone with access to the internet.
And here you are talking about homemade surgery when the topic of the day are pills and disability aids. All you have said in this thread is bait and switch.
Use Tor. Centralised services are easy to attack.
Tor is not a search engine. Use duckduckgo/ecosia
Searx, AGPL, libre software
“Gender affirming” is just abortion. Like it or not you should call it what it is.
???
An abortion is an induced termination of a pregnancy.
HRT pills are not that.
Wat
What does this even mean
