“We need to identify each juror. Then make them miserable. Maybe even suicidal,” wrote another user on the same forum. “1,000,000 men (armed) need to go to washington and hang everyone. That’s the only solution,” wrote another user. “This s— is out of control.”
“I hope every juror is doxxed and they pay for what they have done,” another user wrote on Trump’s Truth Social platform Thursday. “May God strike them dead. We will on November 5th and they will pay!”
Gee, I wonder why people think Trump supporters are fascists.
It’s astonishing how quickly republicans have aligned to the behaviours of the Nazi party of the 1930s. They’re leveraging trump’s conviction exactly the same as the Nazis used the Reichstag fire to turn the power of the government against anyone opposed to them.
They’ve been working towards that since the 1930s literally. They planned their own coup attempt largely in the image of Hitler’s 10 years after his beer hall putch. Wealthy American robber barons and elected fascist, I mean Republicans planned to overthrow FDR and replace him with a business/ fascist friendly dictator. Only to do even worse than him and get caught and humiliated still in the planning phase. As a result they took a step back and decided a slower approach would be better. And have spent the last century slowly cranking up the fascism. Till today when people are finally starting to realize nearly a century too late.
They made the mistake of trying to recruit Smedley fucking Butler to their cause. That action alone speaks to the clear lack of intelligence behind the business plot.
I am unfamiliar with this part of history. Is there a Wikipedia article I should read?
Not surprising you hadn’t heard of it. Little came of it, and those alleged to have taken part never faced any prosecution. It came and went very quietly. It’s seldom mentioned today. But George Bush’s grandfather Prescott was part of the conspiracy.
Das wasser ish shmutzig!
Sounds like a terrorist group. Label them as such
“we are all domestic terrorists”
- GOP
And that’s not being snide - they actually had that on the giant scroller at the rnc convention!
When someone tells you what they are, believe them.
Sadly it seems that anyone with any agency to do something about this kind of thing is already in on it.
The real quote is “When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.”
And they have shown up repeatedly.
One of the blondes pulled a smooth heil wave during that, and we’re still pretending they’re just a differing political party.
Conservatives are a threat to stable and peaceful societies, and an existential threat to the whole human race due to their climate change denialism. As long as we continue to pretend that conservatism is a valid political ideology and not psychopathy and sadism packaged up to look like politics, they’ll continue to undermine democracy and peace until they get the genocide(s) they keep clamoring for
In the present research (N = 675), we focus on the relationship between the dark side of human personality and political orientation and extremism, respectively, in the course of a presidential election where the two candidates represent either left-wing or right-wing political policies. Narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and everyday sadism were associated with right-wing political orientation, whereas narcissism and psychopathy were associated with political extremism. Moreover, the relationships between personality and right-wing political orientation and extremism, respectively, were relatively independent from each other.
We found eleven significant correlations between conservative [Moral Intuition Survey] judgments and the Dark Triad – [narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy,] all at significance level of p<.00001 – and no significant correlations between liberal [Moral Intuition Survey] judgments and the Dark Triad. We believe that these results raise provocative moral questions about the personality bases of moral judgments. In particular, we propose that because the Short-D3 measures three “dark and antisocial” personality traits, our results raise some prima facie worries about the moral justification of some conservative moral judgments
Conservatism should be openly treated as the deadly, dangerous ideology that it is. It produces only bigotry, oppression and death.
In all of human history, nothing good has ever come from conservatism. Nothing at all.
The statistics have Communism as a far more dangerous and deadly ideology, and it’s not even close.
What does communism have to do with progressives or conservatives? These topics are not related. Unless you are pointing to deadly conservative communist governments like the CCCP.
i love how you slashed through that socialist/capitalist dichotomy and got down to the meat: right vs. left. let’s narrow it down even further: altruism vs. narcissism. you either have empathy and want to see other people live well, or you’re a selfish asshole. this is the true dichotomy. there are ways within different systems of law and economics to make life better for most people just like there are ways within different systems to make everyone miserable. intent is what matters. my intent is to purge this world of the narcissists.
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Communism: an economic theory where the stated goal is achieving socio-economic equality.
Social conservationism: a social theory based on returning to regressive “traditional values” and oppression of “deviants”.
Totally the same thing.
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Not stupid enough to believe Communism works… so pretty good.
LOL you thought you were going to do something in here with your boomer talking points you got from facebook
I got that out of a history book, you should try reading one.
You first, buddy.
Okay, lets discuss what happened 35 years ago, on June 4th 1989, feel free to invite your friends.
Later if you get bored we can go over some of these events
Oh you want to talk crimes against humanity by the state? Well let’s see just off the top of my head…
- Killing peaceful student protesters? Check! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings
- Domestic atrocities? Got a whole category fam! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Human_rights_abuses_in_the_United_States
China has issues for sure, but let’s not pretend like the United States achieved it’s world power status with hugs. They sat out WW2 till they had a war machine, and now that war machine is too significant a part of it’s economy and power base to let there not be war so they start them all over the place to keep the party going.
I mean, you could have started with things like the (multiple) Bengal Famines, the Holocaust, and the Imperial Japanese conquests that killed twenty million people themselves, but, sure, student protests…
lmao, you really linked to the Tiananmen Square wiki article. I knew whatever the link was, it was going to be stupid, but I audibly laughed when that page came up.
Thanks for the entertainment. Sorry about the bad brain.
I see you’ve read “Everything I Hate is Communism ; an Idiot’s Guide to Politics”
The right have killed significantly more than communists. We just don’t label it as murder when it’s capitalists, because making “lower beings” suffer is the intended effect of capitalism. Why is it not capitalism’s fault when conservative states fail catastrophically and cause the deaths of millions, but when a communist state fails it’s suddenly socialism’s problem?
Conservatives refuse to acknowledge that capitalism is built on mountains of bones, hubdreds of millions of bones at least, and is still completely dysfunctional. Their criticism of better ideologies is just projection of that.
Well sure, but only self-identified communism rather than real communism. Like the National Socialism Party, the Chinese Communist Party, or the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. They were all “socialism” and “communism” where the rights to everything were held exclusively by the state which was controlled by small groups of individuals. To me that doesn’t sound like it fits the bill, but whatevs.
You know, it sounds like conservatism (fascism)
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How is that possible? Actual communism has literally never existed.
I’m glad the jurors have been smart enough to stay quiet. Now that the verdict is in, there is nothing keeping them from going public with details about their deliberations, but they seem to have all agreed it is best to keep out of the public eye. I wonder if the two lawyers purported to be on the jury advised them of that.
Still, I wouldn’t be surprised if at least one of them already has an advance to write a book about it, which we will see eventuallty. I wonder if they get to keep their notes.
They absolutely should remain publicly silent until sentencing, personal safety aside. Publicly expressing opinions could be used in an appeal as argument for influencing the judge prior to sentencing.
On the flip side, the judge should absolutely use Trump violating his gag order to express his opinions about the case the those involved to impose prison time as part of his sentence.
Gosh! It’s lovely to see that they are such calm, reasonable and intelligent people.
No, see- they already know that the votes to convict were miscounted. They are currently on a crusade to overthrow it 😅
They’re a little late, the conviction has happened. If they wanted to interfere with the outcome of the trial they should have done that before the verdict. Silly treasonous fascists.
They don’t care about cause and effect, they are just angry and dumb.
I mean yeah but in their defense …oh who am I kidding. If you’re still defending trump you’re a trash person…there is no defense.
don’t underestimate them. never underestimate your enemy.
They’re not silly at all, they’re thugs. They want to influence the next one by showing the cost of going against them.
Now, we’re lucky that they’re mostly grifting, incompetent, blustery cowards, so the risk isn’t what it could be.
but it shows what happens when people start to get organized in retaliation. they could very well start to affect cases. this is not something to laugh at.
we could use these same techniques in support of progressive causes, or we could fight back against their strategies. either way, don’t underestimate the power of this kind of resistance.
Disgusting but not too shocking knowing his supporters nowadays.
These people are nothing, but a bunch of unhinged cowards. Fuck’em.
No, some of them are also insurrectionists who’ve already tried to overthrow their government once.
Yeah I’m not really comfortable with people just blowing this off as nothing more than people blowing smoke.
It will absolutely escalate, I believe trump will absolutely straight up tell his followers to do something and they’ll fuckin do it.
They absolutely threaten people online and over the phone.
I counter attack with, using their names to create an online fund raiser to make these reasonable people rich.
It’s only fitting for the man with the best words to finally get a sentence
Looking at a few different NYC election results, about 25% of the population votes republican. Meaning statically 3 of the jurors should be republican. I am sure it could get more granular when you cross that with their occupations.
Yeah but it’s not a purely random sample, because of the jury selection process.
So we can’t really say anything in a statistical sense. I’d guess (not based on any statistics, just common sense) that there would be a higher percentage of independents in the jury than there would be in the general population. At any rate they would people that likely don’t think about politics very much. With Trump, if someone is politically minded at all they’d have a strong opinion on Trump (one way or the other) and would be likely disqualified from being on the jury.
Anyway the point of jury selection is to not be a random sample, but a group of people that aren’t biased for or against the defendant. The polling on the general populace doesn’t have the requirement to not be politically biased to participate, so we can’t use statistics for this.
Sorry for being being that guy, but proper use of statistics is important to me! Sorry!
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Selection process is random but the challenge process keeps it white noise. They’re each going to throw away a set number of people that are bad for their side. In the end it ends up being kind of random still anyway.
The trial was in Manhattan, so that rules out Staten Island. Manhattan alone only voted 14.5% [1] for Trump in 2020. Also 55% of registered voters cast ballots in all of New York City in 2020 [2] (idk what the actual number is for Manhattan specifically).
So about 7.97% of everyone eligible to vote in Manhattan voted for Trump in 2020. This is about 1/12. There’s likely more probability math to perform, but maybe one Republican voter was in the Jury, but it’s also likely that none of the jury had ever voted for Trump (despite what they said in jury selection). 3 republicans in the Jury seems high although I’m also too high to do the math.
[3] https://www.gothamgazette.com/city/9961-breaking-down-2020-vote-new-york-city-biden-trump
Imagine simping for this ugly, rich loser. I’d kind of get it if he was at least hot. Part of me thinks these simps are fake people that Trump and team created.
Mostly fake, foundationally created by pootin to get his favorite puppet elected, and to foment civil war.
And the uber-loser maga simps bought and jumped all in to racist christofascistlandia.
Notice how there were never any big protests or demonstrations at the actual courthouse.
I would expect nothing less from MAGA.
