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    3 months ago

    Socialism is about control of the means of production.

    Oh, you’re closer to reality than I imagined. Ok, so the billionaires are receiving billions of dollars with whose means of production?

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        3 months ago

        Workers who own the means opt to force billions in wealth they generated upon these unfortunate individuals who must act as lightning rods for criticism. Instead of distributing it amongst themselves or spending on infrastructure. Very realistic perspective, thank you.

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            3 months ago

            I believe it isn’t distributing the billions of yuan that are going to these individuals who own means of production, yes.

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                3 months ago

                This argument chain was on whether or not the proles are empowered under Chinese capitalism (they aren’t) not whether or not their standard of living is above $2/day.

                Comparing to America is whataboutism but the numbers I am finding are under 0.25% US citizens below that extreme poverty level in 2020 compared to 0.7% Chinese citizens in 2015.

                Sus when you look at real numbers instead of just patting yourself on the back with citations that agree with you.

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                    3 months ago

                    That’s literally what a town hall style meeting is. Every Western democracy does that. It’s the bare fucking minimum. It’s very strange that you’re treating that as radical or an innovation.