• bloodfart@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    I will generally not recommend people vote for or support the greens because they represent a directionless triangulation with no vision.

    I’ve had the opportunity to vote green in every national election they’ve been in and even chosen them a few times and they’ve always let me down.

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      2 months ago

      It’s that kind of attitude that weakens the left. If every leftist were involved with the greens, we could create a truly revolutionary party.

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        2 months ago

        perhaps by changing the party into something entirely different from within. of course that would require a lot of work to overcome 25 years of institutional inertia, let alone a big job of completely changing the party’s strategy and operation.

        i would even make the argument that the greens aren’t left, since they aren’t calling for worker control of the means of production and historically that’s been the bare minimum to be considered left but using the french seating chart hundreds of years later has its own issues.

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          2 months ago

          Well I don’t see nearly as much ballot access from the PSL or any other minor party. Maybe we should make a new party that’ll lose popularity to the next one in 5 years. No party will ever be leftist enough for leftists in this country and that pretentious mindset will keep us weak forever.

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            2 months ago

            How does that saying go? “If ballot access were candy and nuts we’d all be eating steak!”

            There are absolutely ultras in America but it’s not a position necessary to recognize that the Green Party isn’t leftist. I’d say at the very least the greens can’t be called leftist for the same reason the dubious moniker “progressive” isn’t any marker of the same: their platform is explicitly not left.