• nexguy@lemmy.world
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    Yes. Greta is well known for her violent tendency to be limply carried away by police from protests where she stands there…violently. have you seen the graphic photos of police carrying her away? It’s a wonder they survive the encounter.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldM
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      Eh, it’s a screenshot of social media…

      Would 100% be nice to have a link of the article in the tweet’s screenshot, but it doesn’t seem like enough to remove the post.

      I found the website, but it’s in German, and I dont sprechen enough Deutsch to find a “translate” option, so here’s an English source.

      https://www.dw.com/en/greta-thunberg-says-germany-silencing-pro-palestinian-cause/a-70443304

      If you’re asking for the text of the tweet to be copied pasted to be inclusive for the seeing impaired, that’s a good idea but not really standard, so feel free to type it out yourself to assist.

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        Its definitely standard (literally read the w3c standards) and we should be temp banning users who post screenshots of text without copying and pasting the text

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          literally read the w3c standards

          This?

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web_Consortium

          I’m legitimately not sure what you’re talking about…

          If it’s that. I still dont understand how you think that applies or why Lemmy needs to follow that organizations recommendations.

          They seem to also want html5 to have DRM…

          That’s definitely not happening.

          I’m all for accessibility though. So by all means provide the caption, if you just want to keep arguing that just this one post you don’t like should be removed because you disagree with it for other reasons. We’re not going to do that

  • roofuskit@lemmy.world
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    The reason you don’t hear about Greta anymore is because she didn’t let her conscious stop at climate change. She’s a left wing activist fighting for social justice in all things.

    The rich will mold her image in history the same way they did for MLK, leaving out all the aspects of her politics that make them squirm.

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    No surprises there - Germany is one of the most supportive countries of Israel, the amount of shit that they pull against pro-Palestine protesters is just sad to read about.

    I’m guessing they’re feeling guilty for the holocaust and as an apology, they’re letting the jews in Israel do one of their own.

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      The news in Germany is also shockingly biased. Obviously things like the Bild were going to be, but even on more mainstream news, you don’t hear about Palestinian casualties, nor do you hear interviews with Palestinians or Israelis against of the war (at most you get an Israeli who’s slightly critical of methods, but still thinks Israel should be actively defending itself). If you’re a German who doesn’t look at international sources for news, it would be very strange not to support Israel, based on what you’re hearing. It’s infuriating, but it’s also difficult to change. I don’t know what it would take for the German media to stop supporting them.

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      It’s sad, but also makes me really angry, that “pro Palestine” and “supporting Israel” are now seen as polar opposites.
      Also, the ongoing war is in no way connected to the 1940’s Holocaust, apart from the obvious “they’re both unspeakably horrible”.

      • B312@lemmy.world
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        The holocaust led to more jews going to the holy land which lead to the creation of the state of Israel, which since its inception has had expelling the Palestinians as its main goal. Palestinians rightfully so started resisting through different groups which has lead to Israel doubling down on its genocidal motives leading to today. They are connected just not as obviously as other events.

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        Israel cannot exist as a concept if you support Palestinians right to exist. They’re fundamentally incompatible.

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      I’m guessing they’re feeling guilty for the holocaust and as an apology, they’re letting the jews in Israel do one of their own.

      As a German: Our government, as an apology, is letting the Israeli government do a genocide of their own. You were so close, and then you took the anti-semitic turn by referring to “the jews” :(

      However, also as a German: While I do absolutely wish Israel was forced to stop the atrocities they commit, and pay reparations, I believe that - given our specific history with the state of Israel and what Germans did to the Jewish population of Europe just ~80 years ago, there are plenty of states in the world that are better candidates to take an aggressive political stance towards Israel, before Germany does.

      Some of us are still very much committed to absolutely defending the absolute right of Israel to exist as a state, while also (albeit sadly less of us) there are people who at the same time see the war crimes committed by the Israeli army and secret services against civilian populations of Gaza & Lebanon.

      But the German government can not just take the side of Palestinians here, not because the current Israeli administration does not belong in jail, but because there are those who will - should the pendulum swing to the other side again - ask for revenge / war on Israel / commit crimes against Israeli civilians. Or, as we already see, use the violence in the middle east to justify hate crimes against Israelis or Jewish people in other countries.

      Those who do the killing are evil on both sides, and those who do the suffering and dying are mostly not the same group of people - neither in Israel, nor in Gaza or Lebanon.

      Long story short - Germany is stuck between a rock and a hard place in this, and it is MUCH easier for virtually any other country in the world to speak on behalf of the Palestinians. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t speak out, but I can understand why German politicians are very carefully weighing their options on this.

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      A lot of Germans still remember the 1972 Summer Olympics massacre in Munich and the aftermath like the plane hijack to free the captured perpetrators and are therefore biased against Palestinians, suspecting a lot of violent people among them. It’s not a good environment to protest.

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        German here: if you take peaceful demonstration as an option away from people, they are left with two options: being resigned or non-peaceful demonstration. The German stance to hinder peaceful demonstration against the Israeli atrocities is stupid and labeling Greta Thunberg as primed for violence is beyond stupid. And the majority of Germans has no active memory of the 72 Olympics incident.

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    The press release has since been updated and a correction issued:

    https://www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/4971/5882017

    The assembly leader of the Palestine protest camp informed the Dortmund police today that Ms. Greta Thunberg wanted to visit the assembly in Emil-Figge-Straße. Following an examination by Dortmund Police Headquarters, the latter issued an order banning the camp.

    The Dortmund police carried out a risk assessment for the assembly. The announced visit by Ms. Thunberg led to the conclusion that there would be more people at the venue than stated in the assembly registration. The time frame specified in the assembly confirmation would also have been exceeded. The recent events in connection with Thunberg were taken into account in the assessment. After intensive examination as part of a risk assessment, the Dortmund police headquarters ordered the ban and the associated dissolution of the assembly.

    The assembly leader announced on site that the assembly had ended and arranged for the camp to be dismantled.

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    I get where they’re coming from since you could consider her voice as a weapon. Now sit down and shut the fuck up, the kids are talking. They gotta unshit this goddamn world since everyone before either stopped trying or advocated to make things worse.

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      Unfortunately, as a German citizen, that is exactly what you would expect. In hardly any other country is the Israel lobby as strong as in Germany. In Germany, it is very easy for the supporters of the Netanyahu-regime, because the strategic accusations of anti-Semitism against anyone who even mildly criticizes the inhumane actions of the Israeli government weigh all the more heavily here. Regardless of whether it is legitimate criticism of a state - that doesn’t matter at all here, nor does it seem to matter how many international laws Israel may break or how many innocent lifes the IDF may take in order to pursue the inherently racist Zionist ideology this State stands for in recent days.