• ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Me, I like looking at Wikipedia’s data:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2023

    • 2023, jan-jul: shootings: 427, 6 at schools
    • 2022, same: 441, 3 at schools
    • 2021, same: 413, 0 at schools (thanks covid!)
    • 2020, same: 344, 2 at schools

    I think we can safely say 2023 is a bad year for schools, but a normal year for mass shootings in the USA.

    Because it’s perfectly normal to have hundreds of mass shootings every year and doing nothing about it. Amazing.

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      1 year ago

      2023 isn’t over, and school will be in session through the end if the year. We’ll get an impressive record setting year on both those numbers probably.

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        Look, if we all dig deep and really commit, we can achieve mind-blowing numbers. Let’s not throw in the towel just because we’re ahead. Let’s shoot for the stars! /s

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      The problem isn’t the guns the problem is the politicians (maybe it’s the guns but really it’s our corrupt immoral politicians who refuse to do anything at all about it.)

      We need to weed out corruption in our government, I don’t think a lot of people understand how our of hand it is.

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        Access to weapons is the one thing that stands out in the US compared to every other developed country.

        No guns = no gun violence.

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          I will agree that no guns = no gun violence if you can say it also = no gun defense. If guns take lives, they also preserve and defend them even without firing a shot.

          I dont want hurt to come to anyone but it can happen regardless of the best intentions. Media and politicians happily ignore this because they have people with guns standing next to them at all times. I don’t have enough money for a personal bodyguard. I do not live across from the police station. I only have myself same goes for my family.

          But it doesn’t matter.

          If you could remove all guns, would you? I wouldn’t because I know we would still be faced with the same level of violent people. It’ll shift from guns to something else but now, my elderly parents, my wife and I wouldn’t be able to defend ourselves apparently. I’ll say that children in schools will still be targeted by violent people even without guns.

          I lament the loss of life that has been brought by the use of guns. But there must be a way to allow law abiding citizens unrestricted access for defense while removing access to would-be criminals for violence.

          If you get your way, I’d like to know how you propose I defend my kin from a person or persons who wish me harm? Because I know you won’t be there for me, personally.

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            Remove the tools that make gun violence possible, guns and especially assault weapons, and address the root cause of the violence: The inequality, the poverty, the lack of opportunity for many groups of people, etc.

            That’s what many European countries have been so successful at doing and they have more or less eradicated gun violence with few exceptions (like gang violence that rarely affect schools children and other innocent people).

            Unfortunately, in the US, the policies required to address these issues are often labeled as “socialism” or even “communism” by 40 percent of the population and don’t make it through the Senate filibusters.

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          You guys are missing the point, the reason we still have guns is because of corrupt politicians Jesus fucking christ, the first part is tounge in cheek