Proud Boys founder says ‘corrupt leftwing media’ should apologise for January 6 riot
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Gavin McInnes told makers of BBC Trump documentary that far-right group wasn’t responsible for US Capitol insurrection

Far-right figure blames ‘corrupt leftwing media’ for January 6 attack on US Capitol in new Trump documentary

The founder of the Proud Boys, the far-right group that played a major role in the January 6 riot at the US Capitol and was memorably instructed by Donald Trump to “stand back and stand by”, has told the makers of a Trump documentary: “We want to make America hate again.”

Gavin McInnes, the UK-born British Canadian citizen who co-founded Vice magazine and was influential in the New York hipster scene of the early 2000s before becoming a far-right militia figure, also claimed to the BBC that his group wasn’t responsible for what happened that day.

“It was you,” he told the makers of the documentary, which has aired on the BBC’s Panorama strand. “If anyone should apologise … it should be the corrupt leftwing media, and I’ll accept your apology now if you want to do it.”

        • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          8 days ago

          Can we avoid becoming like the Area 51 raid where only one guy does it and all the chickens say they were just joking?

          For everyone saying eat the rich, launch them into space, guillotine them… How do we figure out when to do that, on which billionaires first? How do we prevent the billionaires from buying the website (or whatever) where it’s planned?

            • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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              8 days ago

              Even then, how can trust scale up? Who makes the call “today is the day” for a huge group without that person getting a knock on their door?

              I forget where I read this, but if the British had just all the metadata we have today, then they could have stopped Paul Revere.

              • mostdubious@lemmy.world
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                8 days ago

                again: ENCRYPTED communication.

                EDIT: if it was easy, we would have done it by now. I’m not advocating anything but if you wanted to do it right, you would probably begin by reading as much info about cold war espionage as possible. the revolution would be foolish to do via the internet. the internet would only serve as a rallying cry to make people realize what had to be done. the dirty work would never be planned in ones and zeroes.

                • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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                  8 days ago

                  Right, but encryption doesn’t necessarily eliminate metadata. And since so little traffic gets onion routed, even that is a signal.

                  Cold war espionage is a different situation because Soviet/Western hierarchy eliminated coordination problems.

                  • mostdubious@lemmy.world
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                    8 days ago

                    like i said, it won’t be easy and i definitely don’t have the solutions. i’m just here to say what has to be done if you want to prevent an inescapable dystopia.