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    So you believe that Biden should be completely immune to all criticism no matter what he does so long as he’s not Trump? I should just invent a fantasy world where Biden is perfect the way you do because acknowledging reality might hurt Kamala’s chances? If I was interested in doing that, then I would’ve done it with the beliefs I was raised with, and I’d be a religious conservative. Fortunately, I’m willing to think critically and face reality, instead of putting party above truth, as you seem to be suggesting I do right now. I want no part in any group or political ideology that requires me to lie or ignore the truth.

    Keep repeating that conspiracy theory to yourself all you want. Ad hominem is the only response you libs can ever muster. You can’t refute what I actually say, so you just focus on trying to paint me as a secret Trump supporter. Weak.

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      It’s not ad hominem to point out that all of your criticisms are for the Democrats and you can barely muster half a sentence of admission that trump might not be the savior of Gaza you’re implying, and that your whole argument is politically biased against the Democrats and for the republicans.

      If you don’t want to be accused of being a trump supporter, at least make some effort towards even a tiny bit of balance. But no, you can’t do it. For you, any factual criticism of trump and the republicans must be countered by a wall of conspiracy theory about how Biden’s attempts to negotiate peace are secretly war mongering and trump’s open and boastful war mongering is swept under the carpet.

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        you can barely muster half a sentence of admission that trump might not be the savior of Gaza you’re implying

        I challenge you to find one thing I have said, at any time, anywhere, that implies that. You are simply lying, and again, attempting to discredit me because you know you can’t address my points.

        If you don’t want to be accused of being a trump supporter, at least make some effort towards even a tiny bit of balance.

        I respond to what I see. Point me to any Trump supporter on here and I will tell them why they’re wrong. It’s just that the vast majority of people on here, myself included, are quite clear in recognizing Trump as an awful candidate who isn’t worthy of serious consideration at all.

        For you, any factual criticism of trump and the republicans must be countered by a wall of conspiracy theory about how Biden’s attempts to negotiate peace

        Very rich of you to call my position on that a “conspiracy theory,” when mine is backed by actual facts and yours isn’t. If Biden or Kamala cared at all about stopping the genocide, they could do it in four words: “No aid until withdrawal.” It’s ridiculously easy.

        You can not provide any explanation for why they don’t do this. The only thing you can do is completely dismiss any and all criticism of your candidate, the exact same way Trump supporters do.

        I have zero loyalty to the Democrats or to the Republicans, I’m quite open to that, yet you keep insisting that I have to demonstrate loyalty to your side or I’m automatically a bad actor. It’s ridiculously tribalistic. This sort of behavior, people brainwashing themselves into ignoring reality, automatically dismissing all criticism, and unthinkingly championing every action of absolute ghouls, and sorting every single individual into one of two camps, is one of the reasons I want nothing to do with either of your backwards parties.

        I tell you I hate Trump, you tell me I love Trump, and when I tell Trump supporters I hate Biden or Harris, they tell me I love Biden and Harris, for exactly the same reasons. What a boring, small world you all live in together, where those two perspectives are all that exist. I want nothing of it.

        Now go ahead and respond to me without answering my criticisms (since you cannot, since they are objectively correct) and keep focusing on who (you think) I am, rather than what I say.