• Ookami38@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, actually, it is. Saying any significant fraction of the homeless population wants to be homeless is at BEST ignorant, and most likely a smoke screen to distract from the actual discussion. You’ve yet to provide any rebuttal than “I’ve seen homeless people who didn’t want housing!” And nothing supporting it.

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      1 year ago

      Sure, it isn’t. “I don’t want to” doesn’t stand on its own. “I don’t want to live in a house” implies that they prefer living outside of one.

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        1 year ago

        You commented “So, you get my point. It isn’t just a desire to be on the street because they think it’s cool and fun.”

        And it is the second sentence that I was referring to when I stated "I never said it was "

        There are unhoused people who do not want to live in a house.

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          1 year ago

          Stop dancing around the fucking point. It isn’t as simple as just not wanting a home. It’s knowing they can’t fucking manage the expenses and responsibility that are deliberately attached to owning a home. It’s trying to own a home and failing.

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            Except it isn’t trying and failing. In some cases they don’t even know how to try. In other cases they can but only some of the times because they aren’t always mentally stable.

            It sounds like you think homelessness is because of individual failings and that isn’t always the case.

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              1 year ago

              You’re either trolling me or replying to the wrong person. I’m the person arguing it isn’t the result of individual decisions, in the face of people constantly telling me they’re just choosing to be homeless. I have never once said it’s the result of individual failings. I’ve been attacking the people that have.

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                1 year ago

                Your last comment suggested these people were homeless because they couldn’t manage the expenses which sounds like you are suggesting it is a personal failure. If your intention is otherwise then it is because you communicated your beliefs poorly not because Im trolling you.

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                  1 year ago

                  They are unable to manage it because our economy has deliberately made it unmanageable. I have been consistently arguing against blaming them for their problems.

                  Also, two are involved in communication, the speaker and listener. That’s two points of failure. I’m not the only one.

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                    1 year ago

                    Yes but you are the one that is writing posts that very much sound like the opposite of what you are trying to say. That is why I am saying it is because of your writing.