When I called someone out for being “delusional” and “a problem”, I was perma-banned from the r/atheism. Have I missed something? Are atheists at literal war with theists? Is it the common belief that theists are willing members of “murderous organizations”? What propaganda is being passed around atheist circles that I’ve been missing out on?
More directly, I guess, is today’s Atheism strictly about anti-Christianity? Cause that’s not where I’m coming from nor interested in going.
For added context of the conversation I was attempting to have - “everybody or nobody”; if a pride flag alone fails to represent everyone (which it inherently does), wouldn’t the proposed argument prevent hanging the flag? I thought it was a reasonable reply to the idea and was shocked by “murderous organizations” coming into play.
(I mean, people have been hanging American flags and singing the National Anthem too.)
Sir, you are agnostic, not atheist.
Atheism is the firm denial god(s). Agnostic is “I suspect there aren’t”.
Ehm, no. Atheism is absence of faith into god(s), not faith into absence of god(s).
What you defining is “strong atheism”. But there is “weak atheism” that does not claim that god does not exist.
I am for example a weak atheist and I think that claim “there are no god(s)” is as meaningless and unscientific as “there are/is god(s)”, because the word god is simply undefined.
There is no Christian God, sure. This statement I am ready to make. But so does a person of nearly any other non-Christian religion.
Always viewed it as “I have no data either way, it’s not a falsifiable hypothesis, so I’m just going to operate on the assumption it doesn’t exist but I’m not making any strong statements about it.”
Funny you should say that. I put up a post about that just the other day.
https://lemmy.one/post/4963134
I do not recognize your authority to tell me who I am or what I believe. You don’t get to dictate what words mean.
Agnosticism is a stance about epistemology, the nature of knowledge - what it’s possible to know or not know. Atheism is a stance about the nature of metaphysics and the supernatural - whether you think there are gods.
You can have a stance on both. There are Gnostic Theists (there is definitely a god), Gnostic Atheists (there is definitely no god), Agnostic Theists (I believe in a god, but I accept it as belief alone), and Agnostic Atheists (I don’t believe in any gods and I don’t think anyone will ever prove otherwise).
Everyone who doesn’t believe in any gods, grand creators, “spiritual energy that binds us all together,” or what have you is an atheist. Don’t gatekeep just because someone is less militant than you, especially on a post you’re making out of frustration toward those more militant than you.