It just seems crazy to me given the power imbalance. A cynical part of me suspects that things are playing out exactly as some evil strategists hoped they would, which, given all the children dying, is super-depressing.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

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    Refugees should have been taken in by allies

    I agree, they really should have been.

    most of the land purchased was not from Palestinians, the area was under British mandate.

    Does that make the purchases any less legal? One need not be Palestinian to own land there.

    From the beginning Palestinians resisted Jewish immigration, they did not consent to any of this, and all of their fears have proven true with time.

    Is Jewish immigration really the cause of all this, or is it the intolerance and inability of some to peacefully coexist? The 20% of Israeli Arab/Palestinians descended from those who stayed and remained peaceful in 1948 are doing relatively well and have full citizenship rights there. These fears were only realized for those who refused to put down the sword and remained hostile. Violent intolerance was a self-fulfilling prophecy for them, I find it ironic that they themselves are now the refugees that their neighbors will not take in.

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      I mean legality doesnt mean much when youre talking about unwanted colonialist rule

      And 100% all of this stems from zionism. They had to live in the holy land, people were there already, so they killed or exiled hundreds of thousands of people from their homes.

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        legality doesnt mean much when youre talking about unwanted colonialist rule

        Are you suggesting that no real estate sales were valid while the British were in charge? What about when it was the Ottoman Turks that were colonizing it, should we ignore all property rights from that period, too? How many local people need to object to immigrants owning property before you support violence against the immigrants and denial of their property rights?

        And 100% all of this stems from zionism. They had to live in the holy land, people were there already, so they killed or exiled hundreds of thousands of people from their homes.

        The 1948 UN borders had Jerusalem in neither state’s territory. Palestine went to war over it. If they lose the holy land to Israel, this is why.

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          If it was a palestinian government representing palestinians, and they decided it was okay to allow this planned ethnostate orfanization to buy property en masse, i wouldnt have much to argue about. But it wasnt a palestinian government, this decision was against the will of the people living there, which is what i care about.

          And man, 700,000 palestinians were killed or exiled from where they were. That cannot happen if youre the invading army. Israel went to war over it and captured palestinian land.

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            A lot of that 700,000 voluntarily left. Arab Palestinians who stayed behind the Israeli 1948 borders, were not driven from their land and remained peaceful currently have full citizenship rights in Israel and so do their descendants. This makes it not an ethnostate as there are multiple ethnicities living in Israel with full rights. (Citation above)

            Not liking your government doesn’t nullify every legal action it takes.

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              Yes sir here have my house, i am willingly leaving, nothing to do with the massive army and the thousands dead