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      That’s easily proven false by simply looking at the efforts they’ve put in, whether you believe they’re sufficient or not (I personally do not).

      Meanwhile Hamas literally forces civilians into “martyrdom” at gunpoint.

      Your meany words aren’t going to hurt my feelings. Let it out, bud. I’m here for you.

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        What about humanitarian cease fire, claiming that IDF is doing sufficient in this conflict is ridiculous. They are bombing the shit out of Palestine.

        Nowhere is safe, the number of fatalities is 8000, not to mention the psychological trauma or the number of injured people, with nowhere to escape. People are trapped and scared, and they are reduced to subhuman beings by the treatment of Israel, who don’t have elementary human rights.

        You have never ever been subject to such an intense bombardment, nor living in such conditions.

        And the worst is that this war won’t achieve anything , you can’t put people to the corner and not expect that those people will not try to bite you again. Where is your humanity, your empathy with people? Or are you also thinking that all Arabs should be exterminated so that you can live an even more comfortable life?

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          I don’t believe Israel is providing sufficient protection, but a cease-fire is nonsensical and only helps the aggressor.

          Your insults won’t ever tilt me. I don’t lack empathy. I simply accept reality as it is.

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            Could you point out to me, where exactly I have offended you?

            Are you then accepting the fact that Israel is mistreating Palestinians for decades, and is committing a lot of human rights violations? https://www.yesh-din.org/en/ for some perspective.

            And are you seriously expecting that after the hostilities end, normal Palestinians would just forget and forgive everything they had been put through and open a new page? It is a bit cynical but I don’t think that this offensive would achieve anything but even more radicalization and division. The best way to fight Hamas and organisations like this is to provide long lasting peace and treat your neighbours respectfully.

            Hamas is fuelled by hatred and killing a lot of civilians and kids won’t help for its eradication.

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              You can’t offend me. I wouldn’t worry about that.

              Hamas very seriously will not exist within a few months. We can discuss the morality of that, but the reality is that Hamas is not an idea, it is an organization with structured logistics. Dismantling that structure kills Hamas as an organization, even if members of Hamas are still at large.

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                Remind me in 3 months. I can imagine this would age like fine milk.

                The reality is that in 3 months casualties would be 2-3 times higher if not more and Gaza’s infrastructure would be even in a more dire situation. And people would be even more polarised, radicalized with no constructive plans how to achieve peace in the long term.

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                  In 3 months the Gazans people will be free from Hamas’s boot on their throat. It is my hope that Israel recognizes this opportunity for what it is. I agree they have not done a good job demonstrating that so far.