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  • @aasatru
    I’ve read that Jewish Zionism takes many forms. Among them, that Zion is wherever Jews are.

    Complicating that is that Jewish Zionism springs from Christian Zionism. That’s a Protestant reinterpretation of scripture dating from the turn of the 17th century.

    Jews didn’t start using the term ‘Zionism’ in relation to themselves until the late 19th century. Herzl adopted (or perhaps developed) the Jewish master race interpretation. Other groups evidently took different paths.

    Originally, Palestine wasn’t part of the plan. Locations around the world were considered. Somebody (probably Herzl) realised that they could leverage the historical connection to Palestine. It also plays into the Christian rapture/second coming narrative, which was significant in the British involvement. The image is from the link that I posted earlier.
    #Palestine
    #Israel
    #colonialism
    #imperialism



  • It’s fairly obvious that Israel is the problem @aasatru
    The Zionist state is a mistake.

    For centuries, Muslims, Christians and Jews shared Palestine. Then, the Zionists started arriving. They wanted to be the Master Race of the region. That’s the problem.

    As Miko Peled observed, Israel and Palestine are the same place. He writes that Jews and Arabs can live together peacefully. That may be true, but by all appearances, it’s true of probably less than 20% of the population.

    Palestine is sacred to more than Judaism and Islam. Ideally, I’d like to see it established as World Heritage. Protected by the world at large and thus needing no armed forces. I can dream, can’t I?

    What of the other 80%? Netanyahu advocates a state in Sinai for Palestinians, so let’s make that two states. I think of them as sanatoria. Unarmed and heavily guarded, to protect them from each other and the world from them.

    Plus a couple of very large prisons.
    #Palestine
    #Israel
    #USpol